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I had my mind set on the SVS PB12-NSD then I found out that I am getting a bonus at work. Now I am thinking about spending the extra money for the HSU VTF-15H.
My space is approx. 2800 sq. feet. Living room,kitchen and dining room is all an open space. I had a Polk PSW505 and it added a little boom but not any punch to the space.
I like the fact that SVS has a 5 year warranty. I have read the shootout results and the HSU faired very well. I would love to have a JTR or Submersive but bonus is not that big

I was originially going to get a Rhymik FV12,because it was the cheapest, but wife told me to get something else within reason. Not that the FV12 looks like a bad sub just do not feel as though it will fill the space.

My equipment is:
Denon 2112ci
Emp E55TI's for mains
Emp E56CI for center
Emp E5TI as surrounds

The system will be 60% tv, 20% music and 20% movies.
With all that said is the extra $248 worth the step up?
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Yes! Go with the HSU vtf15. From most all accounts I've encountered, it's a great bang/buck performer from a company you can count on.
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Have you considered other offerings from Rythmik like the F15/F15HP/FV15? Regardless, all three companies have outstanding products.

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2800 sq ft, Your going to want as much output as you can afford. I would go with the VTF15h or Epik Empire at the very least, with the option of getting another down the road.
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We are looking into building a house or looking for one that has the space for a dedicated HT.

How reliable are the HSU subs? It is hard to look past the SVS 5 year warranty and the option to upgrade within one year,if needed.
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Both are stellar companies and in general don't have many issues with reliability... I believe either to be an equally safe investment.
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We are looking into building a house or looking for one that has the space for a dedicated HT.

How reliable are the HSU subs? It is hard to look past the SVS 5 year warranty and the option to upgrade within one year,if needed.

Hsu provides great support. I have a vtf-15h and am very happy with it.
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We are looking into building a house or looking for one that has the space for a dedicated HT.

How reliable are the HSU subs? It is hard to look past the SVS 5 year warranty and the option to upgrade within one year,if needed.

As a recent customer, I love the 15H, and my space is larger than yours. Customer service is top notch. I have also owned SVS and I have to say that both those companies are great to work with both pre and post sale.

I researched subs like crazy after having a bad experience with eD, and the common theme in the owners threads is that the Hsu and SVS seem to be almost problem free and, if you do have an issue, their customer service takes care of you,

So my advice would be an Hsu 15H, or possibly an SVS PB12 Plus if you can spend a little more.
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The plus looks awesome but is a little more than I can spend. I started at $500 and now am pushing a thousand. Have to put a limit somewhere
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The plus looks awesome but is a little more than I can spend. I started at $500 and now am pushing a thousand. Have to put a limit somewhere

Just thought I would mention it. I came really close to ponying up for the Plus, but the Hsu was closer to my budget.

And I can always add another
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Since I have not heard either one I was just looking for some sound advice(pun intented)

Looks like I will have to get the HSU

I will give them a call tomorrow and talk with them. I have already talked to SVS and they were very helpful. Customer service means alot to me and you can learn alot from just a short talk on the phone.
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I like my VTF-15H and feel it is the best bang for the buck support is great and I would do it again my only regret was not purchasing it earlier.
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The plus looks awesome but is a little more than I can spend. I started at $500 and now am pushing a thousand. Have to put a limit somewhere

Think it no more..get that VTF-15H and start enjoying movies on a whole new level ! You can go two ports open for maximum output or one port open and EQ1 Q .7 for the deepest bass. I will be reviewing it very shortly comparing to a MFW15 and next will be a Captivator.

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How does it perform with music?
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In my opinion is very deep, tight bass..very detailed and if you prefer you can run it sealed but I dont even find it necessary for the music I have tried.

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How will you be measuring your subwoofers.
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That is where I am trying to learn. Coming from live sound we just used our ears and would walk around and make adjustments on the mixing board. I know it is alot different with HT gear in a closed environment.
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Sorry if I missed this, but have you considered 2 really good Used Subs??? 2800 Sq. ft. thats alot of room...just a thought
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That is where I am trying to learn. Coming from live sound we just used our ears and would walk around and make adjustments on the mixing board. I know it is alot different with HT gear in a closed environment.

There was a ton of science that went into your subwoofer, keep it going. The other guys can chime in on what they use. i use Dayton OmniMic.....
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I have looked around locally and have not found anything that I would put good money towards. The only thing I have found are some guys selling their 1000 watt HTIB that will THUMP

Not to bash anyone that own them but I have not heard any that would fill more than a small bedroom.
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How does it perform with music?

Very well nice and tight and with 1 port open EQ=1 and Q=.7 it will play the 16Hz organ note on the supplied demo disc with ease.
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Wife said go ahead and get it. She is actually going to call them tomorrow while I am at work. I knew 22 years ago that I had a keeper. No need in trading in for a new model.(I am talking about the wife)
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2800 square feet? just want to make sure you mean 2800 square feet and not 2800 cubic feet before i make a recommendation...

2800 square feet is a huge space... that would be a room that is 100 feet by 28 feet... that's massive by any standard, even for several rooms in an open floor plan. that is larger than many entire 3 and 4 bedroom houses.
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Wife said go ahead and get it. She is actually going to call them tomorrow while I am at work. I knew 22 years ago that I had a keeper. No need in trading in for a new model.(I am talking about the wife)

Sounds like you need to take her out to eat at her favorite place.
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Buy 10 subs, make everyone envious...

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Sorry I put square feet. It is cubic feet
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Well, that's good news for your bass expectations as well as your wallet.
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i think a pb-12 nsd will do alright in a 2800 cubic foot room, but i imagine a vtf-15h would fill your room up more. if you're willing to spend it, go for it.

both subs are highly regarded at their respective price points.
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I have two VTF15s and they kick some serious ass. Don't hesitate
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