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Hi all...I need some help with sub selection for my soon-to-be started theater room. The link to my build thread is in my sig, the last post is the most current design iteration - two subs will be placed at the front of the theater behind AT fabric.

The room will be HT only (no music). I'm not into bone-rattling bass - tight and accurate and not neccesarily super loud LFE is more my inclination. Budget is flexible but I'd like to be in the $1000 range per sub (plus a single amp to drive both). I am getting pricing info on Klipsch THX Ultra 2 and Triad Bronze/Silver. Anything else I should look at? Thanks in advance!
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Two of these with an amp. EP4000 should do fine. Then get a mini DSP for EQ and you'll be golden.

http://www.chasehometheater.com/inde...art&Itemid=135

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A few others that might be worth considering are...

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HSU ULS 15 has lot going for it.

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/uls15.html

Take a look at this, dual passive with a custom 800 watt DSP amp.

http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/cy...&category_id=8

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Thanks for the responses..I must confess that I'm a complete novice when it comes to subwoofers so forgive stupid questions.

With regards to the miniDSP...how does that work? Can the amp itself handle EQ or am I totally confused?
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you might check the DIY section if you want to build it into a wall.
there is a lot of help there and you can get a lot of bang for the buck (like tight, accurate.)
or you might make a leather ottoman and hide 2 downward facing 18" subs in it and place it in the front middle of the room.
just some thoughts.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1340095
2x18" or 2x15" this way you could hide and still get the bass you need.

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Thanks for the responses..I must confess that I'm a complete novice when it comes to subwoofers so forgive stupid questions.

With regards to the miniDSP...how does that work? Can the amp itself handle EQ or am I totally confused?

The mini DSP will do a lot better job eq'ing the sub than the AVR will. I don't think most room correction software goes below 20 Hz.

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you might check the DIY section if you want to build it into a wall.
there is a lot of help there and you can get a lot of bang for the buck (like tight, accurate.)
or you might make a leather ottoman and hide 2 downward facing 18" subs in it and place it in the front middle of the room.
just some thoughts.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1340095
2x18" or 2x15" this way you could hide and still get the bass you need.

Ugh. I am the antithesis of DIY unfortunately, but I appreciate the input, thanks!
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The mini DSP will do a lot better job eq'ing the sub than the AVR will. I don't think most room correction software goes below 20 Hz.

Gotcha. Now if I were to bring in a professional calibrator at the end, could I forgo my own EQ unit?
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Hi all...I need some help with sub selection for my soon-to-be started theater room. The link to my build thread is in my sig, the last post is the most current design iteration - two subs will be placed at the front of the theater behind AT fabric.

The room will be HT only (no music). I'm not into bone-rattling bass - tight and accurate and not neccesarily super loud LFE is more my inclination. Budget is flexible but I'd like to be in the $1000 range per sub (plus a single amp to drive both). I am getting pricing info on Klipsch THX Ultra 2 and Triad Bronze/Silver. Anything else I should look at? Thanks in advance!

I understand, if you're not into bone rattling bass and super loud LFE, why set up a dedicated HT. While tightness and accuracy is acherished attribute, I don't really think its critical for movies/HT, since audio is only 50 % of the film expirience.

I suspect that soundmixers will make soundtracks somewhat boomy intentionally.
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Gotcha. Now if I were to bring in a professional calibrator at the end, could I forgo my own EQ unit?

No, because he needs something to calibrate. The mini DSP does it automatically. If you hire a pro, then you would have something like a Behringer DEQ2496 or a Velodyne unit or something else i the loop. If you got one of the new Behringer iNuke DSP amps then you could have the amp and EQ in one unit.


http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/NU3000DSP.aspx

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I understand, if you're not into bone rattling bass and super loud LFE, why set up a dedicated HT. While tightness and accuracy is acherished attribute, I don't really think its critical for movies/HT, since audio is only 50 % of the film expirience.

I suspect that soundmixers will make soundtracks somewhat boomy intentionally.

Well, exactly...audio is 50% of the experience. Video is important too. But also clarity of dialogue and effects. I know some people want the bass to blow them away -- I'm just not one of those people. Now, I don't want it to be whisper quiet -- I do enjoy the the big explosions, etc. It just doesn't have to crush me.
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No, because he needs something to calibrate. The mini DSP does it automatically. If you hire a pro, then you would have something like a Behringer DEQ2496 or a Velodyne unit or something else i the loop. If you got one of the new Behringer iNuke DSP amps then you could have the amp and EQ in one unit.


http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/NU3000DSP.aspx

Understood. That's a pretty cool unit, not badly priced either. Thanks for the info.
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The mini DSP will do a lot better job eq'ing the sub than the AVR will. I don't think most room correction software goes below 20 Hz.

Audyssey MultEQXT32 is an exception to your statement. For most people in most rooms (including mine) it does a great job and, it EQ's the entire usable frequency range.

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I think xt32 only goes down to 20 Hz. Plus, it's on the more expensive AVR's. So if you get a cheaper AVR and get the iNuke amp then you can save a bit of money.

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with that budget, I would go with a single Submersive HP. It looks like you have plenty of room behind the AT wall for the SubM to face side to side. With that sized room you will be very happy. If you are looking at Klipsch mains, the SubM will easily keep up with them. Obviously, if you are set on dual subs, this will not work. FWIW, I have a single SubM HP in a similar sized, treated room and have never looked back.
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