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I picked up a CD that includes Saint-Saëns: Symphony No. 3 "Organ" and I'm curious.. I always thought that the final movement was supposed to have the deepest organ notes. Previously, I have only listened to the final movement, and have only done so with very lossy audio formats, but it certainly was earth shaking. However, on the CD I got, the deepest bass seems to be in the "Poco Adagio" portion, which I think is either the second movement or the last half of the first movement (sorry, I don't know much about classical music or how the different parts are distinguished/named). Parts of this movement shook my room more than anything has before. My questions are:

- What part of this symphony has the most powerful bass?
- If the final movement indeed has the deepest/strongest bass, do I feel that the bass is strongest in the "Poco Adagio" due to limitations in my subwoofer and/or characteristics of my room?

The signal path is CD to Onkyo TX-NR708 A/V receiver via optical, to HSU VTF 3.3 + Turbo via LFE cable.
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Your observations are correct. There is lower bass in the "Poco adagio" but it is much less loud than in the finale. It is the latter that impresses most people.

BTW, what recording of the SS3 do you have?

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Poco Adagio Second Movement was one of the pieces put out on a CD by HSU Research to test your HSU subwoofers. The CD was included with each purchase of a sub. It also had some 3rd octave-wide warble tone from 16 to 250 hz.
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It was the Boston Civic Symphony conducted by Max Hobart 1983.
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Your observations are correct. There is lower bass in the "Poco adagio" but it is much less loud than in the finale. It is the latter that impresses most people.

BTW, what recording of the SS3 do you have?

Ah, good to hear. The final movement is certainly much louder but the deep bass was not very impressive IMO, it might just be the recording I have? I have the CD by the Philidelphia Orchestra (http://www.amazon.com/Saint-Sa%C3%AB.../dp/B000LP4OII) but I do plan on purchasing the Boston Audio Society one which includes the Boston Civic Symphony recording I believe.

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Poco Adagio Second Movement was one of the pieces put out on a CD by HSU Research to test your HSU subwoofers. The CD was included with each purchase of a sub. It also had some 3rd octave-wide warble tone from 16 to 250 hz.

Very good to know! I wish I had the CD

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It was the Boston Civic Symphony conducted by Max Hobart 1983.

I heard that that recording is one of the best, I want to get my hands on it!
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Ah, good to hear. The final movement is certainly much louder but the deep bass was not very impressive IMO, it might just be the recording I have? I have the CD by the Philidelphia Orchestra (http://www.amazon.com/Saint-Sa%C3%AB.../dp/B000LP4OII) but I do plan on purchasing the Boston Audio Society one which includes the Boston Civic Symphony recording I believe.

Very good to know! I wish I had the CD

I heard that that recording is one of the best, I want to get my hands on it!

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Your observations are correct. There is lower bass in the "Poco adagio" but it is much less loud than in the finale. It is the latter that impresses most people.

BTW, what recording of the SS3 do you have?

kal, you got a favored mch recording of this?

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It was the Boston Civic Symphony conducted by Max Hobart 1983.

???? New one on me.

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kal, you got a favored mch recording of this?

For sound quality, I like the Eschenbach/Philadelphia SACD on Ondine. I also like the classic Living Stereo with Munch/BSO/Zamkochian
and the Living Presence with Paray/DSO/Dupre.

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I love the SACD, not just because of higher resolution/clarity, but the fact that the mastering is typically better than typical CD.
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For sound quality, I like the Eschenbach/Philadelphia SACD on Ondine. I also like the classic Living Stereo with Munch/BSO/Zamkochian
and the Living Presence with Paray/DSO/Dupre.

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