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Hi, I'm looking to add a subwoofer to my aktimate mini's. I'm searching in the price range stated and am looking for suggestions. it's for a 12x12" room mainly for gaming. In not so much concerned about loud, window shaking bass. I'm looking for really tight, defined bass.

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B&W ASW-608
http://www.castlehillhifi.com.au/prod1104.htm

Sunfire SDS-8
http://www.castlehillhifi.com.au/prod1477.htm

Aaron SW200
http://www.apollohifi.com.au/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=558&category_id=21&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=80

Velodyne eq max10
http://www.apollohifi.com.au/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=1260&category_id=21&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=80

Wharfedale Sw150
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Can anyone help me out with some thoughts?

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I'm searching in the price range stated and am looking for suggestions. it's for a 12x12" room mainly for gaming. In not so much concerned about loud, window shaking bass. I'm looking for really tight, defined bass
How about the well-rated SVS SB12-NSD for $899?

(Also available here, according to the "International Sales" page on the SVSound.com website.)
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Hi, I'm looking to add a subwoofer to my aktimate mini's. I'm searching in the price range stated and am looking for suggestions. it's for a 12x12" room mainly for gaming. In not so much concerned about loud, window shaking bass. I'm looking for really tight, defined bass.

I recently upgraded from dual BIC America F12 subwoofers to dual SVS PB12-NSD subs. If your looking for really tight, defined bass then look no further than the SVS PB12-NSD subwoofer.
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That's a small space so you have that benefit,

HSU vtf3-mk4
SVS SB12 or PB12
Epik Legend or Epik Empire

Or even the ever popular budget Klipsch rw-12d for 300 at newegg. A pair of them would be quite sufficient for a 12' by 12' room.

It's very rare around here that your budget exceeds your needs.


I'd be tempted for a pair of Epik Legends in your use case.

Dual subs are desirable even in a small room.

Edit: I just realized you were possibly an Aussie. Most of those brands down there I've never heard of, when i clicked a store link you provided. Hopefully somebody can provide more relevant feedback because shipping may be a budget buster for a US made sub. I owned a pair of Jamo D7subs that I liked for the money at the closeout price of $500 per sub, but they weren't worth anywhere near the $2000 MSRP. A single HSU VTF-15H was significantly better sub, but two of the Jamo D7Subs were fairly comparable to a single $1000 HSU VTF-15H. Considering normal prices that is $4,000 of Jamo compared to $1000 of HSU.

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Its very rare around here that your budget exceeds your needs.

That's a fact. It's usually: I have a 6000 cubic ft room and $300, which sub is best for me?
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Its very rare around here that your budget exceeds your needs.

That's a fact. It's usually: I have a 6000 cubic ft room and $300, which sub is best for me?

hah, no doubt - I was thinking that same thing. It's the all too typical thread that goes like this.

'I have a 25x40 foot room open to my kitchen and dining room with a 25 foot vaulted ceiling. What's the best sub I can get for $200-$300? I'm thinking about purchasing the Polk PSW110, but I might be able to pay an extra $50 for something else if the extra money spent is worth it?'


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For tighter bass, go with the sealed subs listed so far, either the SVS SB12-NSD or Epik Legend.

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+1 get a sealed sub. smile.gif
if you can stretch the budget a little ill recommend svs http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/sealed-box as well
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Looking at both the sb12 and epik legend, look nice and would fit exactly with what I'm looking for. Now it's just a case of seeing if I can get them in Australia.

It's a bit of an issue I've found over here. There are so many good options but not that many shops that stock them.
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The Epik you might not be able to. But check the links eljaycanuck gave you. There is a vendor for SVS in Australia.

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Ok so really looking into the sb12. Everything I've seen about it looks amazing. They have stock in aus so that's good.

I've also found another contender not listed by anyone. The velodyne eq max-12. Any thoughts on this sub? Same price and from what I can tell pretty good quality. Maybe not as tight as the sb12 though.
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Looking at both the sb12 and epik legend, look nice and would fit exactly with what I'm looking for.

You should look at the PB12-NSD.
It will go deeper.

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You should look at the PB12-NSD.
It will go deeper.

The OP's first post says, "it's for a 12x12" room mainly for gaming. In not so much concerned about loud, window shaking bass. I'm looking for really tight, defined bass."

Games aren't doing much ULF content, and the SB12 will give him tighter bass.

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Hi, I'm looking to add a subwoofer to my aktimate mini's. I'm searching in the price range stated and am looking for suggestions. it's for a 12x12" room mainly for gaming. In not so much concerned about loud, window shaking bass. I'm looking for really tight, defined bass.
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You would be hard pressed to find a sub tighter than an X-Ref 12. The X-Ref 12 means tight. Be that as it may, I must ask, why do you require super tight bass for gaming?
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I should have elaborated further in my original post. It will also be used for music. I've only ever used sloppy subwoofers and wanted something much more refined. Im really looking forward to punchy bass.
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hah, no dout - I was thinking that same thing. It's the all too typical thread that goes like this.
'I have a 25x40 foot room open to my kitchen and dining room with a 25 foot vaulted ceiling. What's the best sub I can get for $200-$300? I'm thinking about purchasing the Polk PSW110, but I might be able to pay an extra $50 for something else if the extra money spent is worth it?'
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hah, no dout - I was thinking that same thing. It's the all too typical thread that goes like this.
'I have a 25x40 foot room open to my kitchen and dining room with a 25 foot vaulted ceiling. What's the best sub I can get for $200-$300? I'm thinking about purchasing the Polk PSW110, but I might be able to pay an extra $50 for something else if the extra money spent is worth it?'
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You forgot the stated goal of "room shaking bass".....
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Anything from Rythmik..my FV15 is a killer sub to say the least!

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+1 for Rythmik, small room so go with an F12 set to 14hz/Hi damping and let it smack you upside the head. wink.gif

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Another user told me about rythmik and their F12. Looks like a great sub but I live in Australia and they currently have no rythmik dealers here. I could order one from the US but it would end up costing $1277 blowing my budget. That's without package insurance either.

Compared to the svs sb12, I don't think the extra $500+ and all the extra hassle would be worth it.

Thanks for the suggestion anyway.
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If he could stretch the budget, i'd lean towards the HSU ULS-15 here, but he's got a reasonable budget and if he doesn't want to cross it, I'd pick up the svs sb12 for my money.

Sticking with sealed was a good suggestion.
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Another user told me about rythmik and their F12. Looks like a great sub but I live in Australia and they currently have no rythmik dealers here. I could order one from the US but it would end up costing $1277 blowing my budget. That's without package insurance either.
Compared to the svs sb12, I don't think the extra $500+ and all the extra hassle would be worth it.
Tanks for the suggestion anyway.

Ahhhh!!! Land of Southern Night Skies!!!!! Then I would go with the SVS since you have a dist. there. That sub has a loyal following and everyone loves it.

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I agree a sealed sub will give the tightest and most musical sound. However, why not go with something more versatile. The HSU VTF line allows you to run sealed, one port open, or both ports open. Nobody else gives you that much flexibility.

With your price range, you could go all the way, and get a VTF-15H. You can't have too much sub, as you can always turn it down... and going big would mean that if there are future use cases for this sub, it would meet those too.

But given your small room the VTF-2 MK4 would probably be enough.

I have the VTF-3 MK3 (which has been replaced by the VTF-3 MK4) and even though mine can't be sealed, it's still VERY tight and musical with one port closed, and hits ultra-low for those big moments in movies. I love my sub, and can't imagine anything else coming close for the price. Just do some research on any of the 3 subs I linked, and you'll find nothing but love out there. You gotta spend at least twice as much to beat them.

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HSU certainly makes subs that are comparable to SVS. However, the OP is in Australia. SVS has a vendor there; HSU does not. So SVS is a far better option for him.

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I really would love a HSU sub. I have heard nothing but good things about them. But exactly as cel4145 said, they don't have any resellers in aus making it nearly impossible/impractical to get one here.

I've been in contact with rythmik and unfortunately their f12 sells for just over $1200, pushing it out of my price range.

The SVS looks like the clear winner here. Really good reviews, only $849 and has all the connectivity options I need. I just don't think the extra $400 would be worth it if I went down the f12 road. Perhaps the F15 will be a nice upgrade in a few years time.

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When I did my research, SVS was a very close second to HSU, so I'm sure you'll be happy. I mainly went with the HSU because of the multiple config options. I don't know much about importing/exporting from Australia, and the Hsu FAQ doesn't cover that, but you might want to email them. They have a VERY responsive customer service (often times answered by Dr. Hsu himself) and they might be able to provide a quote for shipping one to you.

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When I did my research, SVS was a very close second to HSU, so I'm sure you'll be happy. I mainly went with the HSU because of the multiple config options. I don't know much about importing/exporting from Australia, and the Hsu FAQ doesn't cover that, but you might want to email them. They have a VERY responsive customer service (often times answered by Dr. Hsu himself) and they might be able to provide a quote for shipping one to you.

Hsu's international shipping rate is fairly high and once added would probably push the sub beyond his budget. There is also the issue of warranty support and having a local distributor is a blessing in that department (if something should go wrong).
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You would be hard pressed to find a sub tighter than an X-Ref 12. The X-Ref 12 means tight. Be that as it may, I must ask, why do you require super tight bass for gaming?

Just saw this, so you're saying the X-Ref 12 is one of the tightest subs out there. How do you establish that?
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Just saw this, so you're saying the X-Ref 12 is one of the tightest subs out there. How do you establish that?

From empirical evidence. By listening to music (such as smooth jazz) that has or requires tight bass reproduction. My observations are also supported by the reviewers at Audioholics and every owner of this sub.
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Did the OP ever make his decision?
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