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A long time ago you all helped me setup a home theater for my parents (when I lived there :P). We were using the BIC H-100 as a sub, which was AWESOME. Yesterday, unfortunately, my dad explained to me that the sub died. It did what apparently all 4+ year BIC H-100s do. The fuse died. However, from everything we are reading, once you replace the fuse, it will just die again...and again...and again.

With that said, he is looking to just replace the sub completely. I have been out of the game for a while now and lost touch on what a good budget subwoofer is. Of course, we now need one that will rival the sound quality of the BIC H-100 as that's what he is used to!

He is looking to spend around $250-$270 for a subwoofer. I was recommending the Polk PSW505 to him. However, a quick search shows thats a good sub...for music.

He is mainly a Blu-Ray guy. He watches a TON of primetime television and even more movies. Therefore, he is looking for something that will shine in that area.

Any help and suggestions are appreciated!

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He is looking to spend around $250-$270 for a subwoofer. I was recommending the Polk PSW505 to him. However, a quick search shows thats a good sub...for music.

Not sure where you got that information from, but I don't think too many people would call the PSW505 a musical subwoofer. It's better for HT.

Have you looked at the budget subwoofers thread yet? That would be the best place to start. There are a lot of options available.

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If you like the Bic so much why not replace it with an F12?




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Thanks for the replys!

Jim - I had seen that list and while it helped to narrow down my choices, I do have a more specific question/problem. Seeing as we are used to the H100s sound quality, I need to make sure the replacement sub is just as good and even preferably better than the H100. Any recommendations on that front?

Ian - my concern with buying the H100 again or another Bic for that matter is will it suffer the same fate...? I understand things will die overtime, and I get I'm buying on a budget. However, I don't think I should fall into a cycle of buying a new sub every 3 years because it died, as many state is the case with the H100. Is the F12 or PL200 of better quality?

Also, I managed to bump his budget to $300 max. Not sure if that brings in any new contenders.

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The PL-200 is better than the F12. Better SQ and more SPL (volume) output. If you go to Acoustic Sound Design and make them an offer, I think you can get it for $280.

If you want to try something different, the Premier Acoustics PA-120 is another option. Has a reputation for better SQ than the BIC F12. Also, make them an offer for that one, too.

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Just did a little more research...

The PL-200 is just over $300. However, the HSU STF-2 is $319. Would the HSU be a better sub? I understand it's a "higher quality" sub however it's a 10" driver and is down firing. What would the sound difference be like between the two?

The room is 24x16 and is carpeted, with hard wood/laminate coming in the future. The sub is placed at the front of the room near the TV. It's about 19' away from where the viewers will sit. The room is NOT a dedicated HT room. That's it's main focus, but the office/computer desk takes up a wall and the laundry room is an extension of this room (does have it's own door/room).

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Did you try making Acoustic Sound Design an offer of $280 for the BIC PL-200? They also sell on ebay, which is why they will go lower on price.

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If you read through the comments on the PL-200, you will see where quite a few individuals have upgraded from the BIC F12 which they feel is not as good as the PL-200. A few individuals have upgraded from the PL-200 to the Hsu STF-2 which they consider better than the PL-200. The shipping charge on the Hsu STF-2 brings its total price closer to $400 (except when on sale).

BIC subwoofers are generally reliable (as are Hsus). The fuse in a subwoofer can die during a power surge. If you replace the fuse with the appropriate one from Radio Shack or monoprice.com and it immediately fails, then you know that you have an amplifier failure. It is generally more cost effective to get a new subwoofer than to do a amplifier replacement or repair on a low-end subwoofer.
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The room is 24x16 and is carpeted, with hard wood/laminate coming in the future. The sub is placed at the front of the room near the TV. It's about 19' away from where the viewers will sit. The room is NOT a dedicated HT room. That's it's main focus, but the office/computer desk takes up a wall and the laundry room is an extension of this room (does have it's own door/room).
Any thoughts?

The room is 24x16 with the main viewing area 19' away, and a single H-100 was sufficient? Even if the ceiling is only 8' that equates to a little over 3000 cubic feet. Seems like way too much space for a single 12" sub to handle. Be that as it may...

You might want to consider the Acoustic Audio HD-SUB15. It has a 15" driver and would do a better job of filling that space. Not sure the SQ is going to be the same though. Another option to consider would be dual Dayton Audio SUB1200's. That would even out the sound distribution and potentially make things better at all the listening positions.

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The room is 24x16 with the main viewing area 19' away, and a single H-100 was sufficient? Even if the ceiling is only 8' that equates to a little over 3000 cubic feet. Seems like way too much space for a single 12" sub to handle. Be that as it may...
You might want to consider the Acoustic Audio HD-SUB15. It has a 15" driver and would do a better job of filling that space. Not sure the SQ is going to be the same though. Another option to consider would be dual Dayton Audio SUB1200's. That would even out the sound distribution and potentially make things better at all the listening positions.

Thanks, Jim! Yep, the H100 shook the room. I had the 'Volume' level on the H100 to "5" and calibrated it to be around 75dB. When watching something like Transformers, King Kong, etc; at times you could hear the rumble outside! When upstairs (the HT room is in the basement) you would feel the floor (or basement ceiling) shake. Is this not normal for the H100?

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For $300 or under my vote goes for the PL-200........ However, if you can get your dad to bump up his budget, I would highly recommend an Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Plus. The LFM-1 Plus IMO is the cheapest sub with any real authority down to below 20hz. I bought 2 of them and they are great. I got them on sale for $499 each with free shipping.

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Thanks, Jim! Yep, the H100 shook the room. I had the 'Volume' level on the H100 to "5" and calibrated it to be around 75dB. When watching something like Transformers, King Kong, etc; at times you could hear the rumble outside! When upstairs (the HT room is in the basement) you would feel the floor (or basement ceiling) shake. Is this not normal for the H100?

Nope - you must have gotten the "super" H-100 by mistake... tongue.gif

Actually, that might explain why it burnt out; perhaps it was working too hard. Something to consider when looking for a new sub.

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If we were to go with the PL-200, is setting the Volume (or gain?) dial to 5 too much?

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If we were to go with the PL-200, is setting the Volume (or gain?) dial to 5 too much?

If you have a SPL meter then set the sub trim level in the receiver to 0db then use the gain knob on the sub to hit 75db on your SPL meter at the listening position. Then leave the sub alone and do all other tweaking in the receiver. I have my subs set to +2db in the receiver with them calibrated just how I told you so I am running them 2db hot.

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If we were to go with the PL-200, is setting the Volume (or gain?) dial to 5 too much?

It's more then just the subwoofers gain. There's also how many dB positive the AVR was pushing to the LFE channel, as well as the general volume you listen to it. Then there's ventilation to consider - in other words, if there wasn't sufficient air flow around the amp that could have contributed as well. It's a number of factors combined that could have hastened the subs demise.

I'm not saying that's what happened, but if the sub was being over extended on a consistent basis -- like a single 12" sub could have been given the room size -- it certainly may have been a factor.

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Energy s10.3 has nothing but great reviews for the price. Newegg and a few other online places have them for as low as $199 or even lower. Watch for a sale.

A nice sub for sure, but it will probably be overwhelmed by such a big room.

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A nice sub for sure, but it will probably be overwhelmed by such a big room.

That's what I was thinking. That and the STF-2. But the PL-200 will be a step up from the H-100 with more bass output and a little better SQ. Your dad should be quite happy smile.gif

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Thanks for the help guys. Right now he is looking at the BIC F12 as he thinks the PL200 will be too much rolleyes.gif. He was worried that his Onkyo will not be able to handle the 1000w sub as it's 105W/ch. However, I'm trying to explain that the reason why the Sub is powered is it has it's own amp which will handle the wattage. Isn't that correct? I personally think the F12 will not be enough to handle the room, but that's just me.

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Right. The sub has it's own built in amp (explain to him this is one reason why subs cost a good bit of money). And it won't overpower the listening experience otherwise as long as the sub channel level and gain (volume) on the sub are properly matched. If he has Audyssey, that will be taken care of automatically when he runs the listening positions with the mic.

Also, the PL-200 is 200 watts RMS, and 1000 watts peak. That 1000 watts is only there for momentary bursts during HT usage where the sub needs the extra headroom. Meanwhile, it's perfectly normal to buy a sub that has a larger RMS rating than the individual speaker channel level RMS ratings for the receiver. Very low frequencies take a lot of power to generate.

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Thanks for the verification!

So He is now debating between the HD-SUB15 and the PL-200. While the HD-SUB15 has a larger driver, the few reviews I can find state that they feel the sub is rather weak. Between the two subs, and those reviews aside, which would you go with?

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The HD-SUB15 is popular over at blu-ray forum (http://forum.blu-ray.com/), but they don't get talked about here much. Meanwhile, plenty of PL-200 owners here on AVS will tell you they are a good sub for the money. The PL-200 was designed by Dr. Hsu of HSU.

Here's the owners thread for the PL-200. You might encourage him to take a look.

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The PL-200 was designed by Dr. Hsu of HSU.

Dr. Hsu was involved with the PL-200? I never knew that. The dude sure gets around...

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Dr. Hsu was involved with the PL-200? I never knew that. The dude sure gets around...

Yep. There's a quote from BIC America in the opening post of the PL-200 owners thread that talks about it.

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I have the BIC H100 and my sub died a year or two outside of its warranty period. I called BIC America and they repaired my Sub Amp for around $100 (including Shipping). This all happened around 4-5 years ago and my sub has been going strong ever since. So repair through BIC is an option. Give them a call if this interests you.
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Just an update...he went with the PL-200! It will be here today. I'm going to set it up for him tonight.

Do the same things apply to this sub on setup? Volume dial to whatever it takes to hit 75db, Crossover to the highest setting, I think it's 80hz? Then adjust the levels in the receiver to my liking?

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He made a good choice for the money!

Correct... As far as the sub xover put it as high as it goes or disable it if possible. In the receiver try an xover of 80hz.

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Thanks! I also found that there is a crossover switch, 0* and 180*. It's set to 180*. Is this correct (That's what the old was set to as well). On top of that(!), there is a Crossover Switch that's stating "IN" and "OUT". By default, it's switched to IN. I don't see anything referencing this in the manual. Any ideas?

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Thanks! I also found that there is a crossover switch, 0* and 180*. It's set to 180*. Is this correct (That's what the old was set to as well). On top of that(!), there is a Crossover Switch that's stating "IN" and "OUT". By default, it's switched to IN. I don't see anything referencing this in the manual. Any ideas?
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I'm pretty sure you can go either one (crossover all the way to 180* or "out"). This should let his Onkyo do all the cross over work. Does your dad's Onkyo have Audyssey XT or the sort? It seems pretty odd to have the gain at the 5'oclock position. I run two H100s and each gain is between the 7 and 8'oclock position (this is where each sub registered at 75dbls.). What does Audyssey do to the levels when you go and check them out in the "speaker setting" section? As Jim has stated, you might have been running the H100 very "hot". Good luck with the 200!
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Thanks! I also found that there is a crossover switch, 0* and 180*. It's set to 180*. Is this correct (That's what the old was set to as well). On top of that(!), there is a Crossover Switch that's stating "IN" and "OUT". By default, it's switched to IN. I don't see anything referencing this in the manual. Any ideas?
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That 0 and 180 switch is the phase. Typically, you can put it on whichever one makes the bass sound louder.

Sorry. Not sure about the in/out for the crossover switch. You might ask in the owners thread for the PL-200.

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