svs or paradigm - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 23 Old 07-11-2012, 02:57 AM - Thread Starter
Member
 
nemoreborn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 139
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Hi every1..

This is my first post here ! Im named Clement , im from montreal canada...

I recently bought my first audio system ( paradigm monitor 7 v7 home theater setup ) and i lovin it smile.gif

The only peice i dont have yet is a sub !

So here is my question... should i get a sub from svs ( the sealed one 650$) or the paradigm monitor sub 12.... ( 720$+ tax)

Both seems to have good review.. but im kinda scared to buy a sub online (svs). Since i canr hear it before buying.... im looking for a deep bass but not boomy...
nemoreborn is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 23 Old 07-11-2012, 04:15 AM
AVS Special Member
 
mojomike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: South Florida
Posts: 6,966
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 27
You can put your trust into the SVS. That particular model appears to be an overachiever for its size and cost.
mojomike is offline  
post #3 of 23 Old 07-11-2012, 05:31 AM
Member
 
Jsawyer09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 73
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Welcome to the forum!
I have Paradigm Signature S2 V2 speakers, and I just purchased the SVS SB12-NSD sealed subwoofer over a week ago, and I must say I cannot be happier. This combination is absolutely astounding. It didn't take me too long to get it dialed-in correctly. The bass, and more specifically, the articulation from this sub adds such depth and precision that I'm often at a loss for words listening.

I suppose what I'm saying is that I would not hesitate purchasing an ID sub like the SVS. It is a wonderful sub.
Jsawyer09 is offline  
post #4 of 23 Old 07-11-2012, 05:33 AM
Member
 
swillis55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: ON, CAN
Posts: 172
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Just received the svs sb12 yesterday. Had a chance to quickly try out the opening scene of Attack of the Clones. Couldn't be happier with the purchase. The Canadian distributer was fast. Had it next day.
swillis55 is offline  
post #5 of 23 Old 07-11-2012, 07:35 AM
AVS Special Member
 
pronghorn/az's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 1,338
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 16
Spec wise the SVS should better the Paradigm. Paradigms subs (Monitor series) from what I've read bottom out at 30hz?

Jeff
pronghorn/az is offline  
post #6 of 23 Old 07-11-2012, 12:50 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
nemoreborn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 139
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
There is a local store near where i live , they sell the brand ''Dali'' Ikon Sub 250 w rms ... any1 ever heard about this brand and that model ?
nemoreborn is offline  
post #7 of 23 Old 07-11-2012, 02:02 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
nemoreborn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 139
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
also i was wondering how is the Cylinder sub from SvS '' Pc12-nsd'' i maybe wanted to buy the PB12-NSD but its way to big for my room ...

the only thing im conserned about the cylinder is the sub firing the floor ...does that affect the sound in any way!?
nemoreborn is offline  
post #8 of 23 Old 07-11-2012, 02:09 PM
Senior Member
 
ndskurfer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bismarck, ND
Posts: 415
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
Liked: 28
I know that the PB13 and PC13 have been measured and compared with little difference (very slight edge to the PB13). While not the same subs, I would expect the same to hold with the 2 models you mention. I believe it comes down to internal cabinet volume, which are very close.
ndskurfer is offline  
post #9 of 23 Old 07-11-2012, 02:10 PM
AVS Special Member
 
mojomike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: South Florida
Posts: 6,966
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by nemoreborn View Post

also i was wondering how is the Cylinder sub from SvS '' Pc12-nsd'' i maybe wanted to buy the PB12-NSD but its way to big for my room ...
the only thing im conserned about the cylinder is the sub firing the floor ...does that affect the sound in any way!?

The ported Pc12-nsd will give you much more output particularly in the deep bass range. This can be advantageous especially when viewing movies with a good deal of bass in their soundtrack. Depending on the acoustics of your room, there is a greater possibility of boominess in the case of excess room gain.

The floor-firing aspect of the sub is typically a non-issue.
mojomike is offline  
post #10 of 23 Old 07-11-2012, 02:17 PM
AVS Special Member
 
SaviorMachine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: I'm Jackie Treehorn
Posts: 1,391
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 87
I'm completely satisfied with my PC12-NSD. I've owned another downward-firing sub and several forward-firing subs; I perceive no penalty paid by the NSD for its downward firing design. I also don't think it would be a popular design if it hurt anything. Almost all the major ID brands have at least one DF model, and loads of retail brands do, too.

If the PB12 is too big for your room and you're looking at the PC12 as a substitute, a word of caution: while the PC12 certainly takes up less floor space, it's also dramatically taller than the PB12. I mean, it's three feet from the base to the port grille on top. Just something to keep in mind--it's still very visible in a room, and depending on the room, it may be even more visible than the PB12.

Once again, I am sorry to take a sledgehammer to so small and fragile a nut. -- Richard Dawkins, The Greatest Show On Earth
SaviorMachine is offline  
post #11 of 23 Old 07-11-2012, 03:54 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
nemoreborn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 139
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Its sure that i would prefer to go with the Monitor Sub 12 from paradigm ... since i have all monitor 11 Setup already ...any1 tried it ? is it that bad !? i mean , i know maybe the SvS SB12-NSD Or the PB12
might be better , but i have to admit that Grill is UUUUGLY !

there is a guy who sell me the Sub 12 for 700 $ and the regular price is 999... so im really considering it ...

so here is my choice:

Paradigm Sub 12 ( fitting with the rest of the setup ) ( not sure about sound if its really more poor than SvS ) for 700$ +taxes

SvS Sb12-nsd with the ugly Grill tongue.gif for 723$ tax in Shipped at my place

SvS Pb12 823$ tax in Shipped at my place
nemoreborn is offline  
post #12 of 23 Old 07-12-2012, 12:22 PM
Member
 
Ouiff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 78
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
nemoreborn, I have an SVS SB13 on it's way and arriving hopefully today. This model isn't available in the US/ Canada anymore but i recently tested some other older paradigms (DSP3400, I am thinking similar to the monitor 12) and also had a real quick listen to the signature sub 12,while this was a very short demo as it wasn't in my price range it did impress me.

I will let you know how i go and what my thoughts are comparing the paradigm and SVS. I know the comparisson models aren't that similar I wasn't impressed with the 3400 and so my gut says you will enjoy the SVS more. I know this isn't the best thing to go off but i will give you a quick run down in a few days when i have had a chance to play around with my new sub
Ouiff is offline  
post #13 of 23 Old 07-12-2012, 02:44 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
nemoreborn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 139
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
from what i heard , the monitor sub 12 have nothing to do with the dsp series ... dsp series are ported and boomy , the monitor sub 12 is sealed and way more snapy.
nemoreborn is offline  
post #14 of 23 Old 07-12-2012, 02:48 PM
Member
 
Ouiff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 78
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
thats a very good point and one i over looked.

Good luck with your decision. I have paradigm studio 60s but went with svs due to the rave reviews and customer feedback. Let us know what you decide to do.
Ouiff is offline  
post #15 of 23 Old 07-12-2012, 05:14 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
nemoreborn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 139
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
agree , i have not found any worthy review / feedback about the monitor sub 12 either ...
nemoreborn is offline  
post #16 of 23 Old 07-12-2012, 09:28 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
nemoreborn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 139
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Oh just another little question... how good is that rhytmik f12 sub ??? Its in my price range and its seems to be a good sub.
nemoreborn is offline  
post #17 of 23 Old 07-13-2012, 07:24 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
cel4145's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 11,591
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 179 Post(s)
Liked: 730
Excellent. Rythmik uses direct servo technology with their driver which improves the accuracy of the bass response. If you can afford it, I would lean toward one of those over the SVS.

Keep in mind that the Rythmik F15 is only $100 more than the F12. If you have room for it, it would be worthwhile getting the larger sub because of the extra output. Better to have that in case you need it then to spend this much money and wish you had later.

Your questions are answered: Speaker FAQ
HT: Energy RC-50, RC-LCR, Veritas VS Surrounds | Dual CHT SS 18.1s | Denon AVR-888 | Dayton SA1000 | Antimode 8033C
Desktop: CBM-170 SE | SVS SB-1000 | Audio-GD NFB-11 | HK 3390
Headphone & Portable HE-400 | K612 Pro | HP150 | DX50 | E12
cel4145 is offline  
post #18 of 23 Old 07-13-2012, 07:27 AM
AVS Special Member
 
pronghorn/az's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 1,338
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

Excellent. Rythmik uses direct servo technology with their driver which improves the accuracy of the bass response. If you can afford it, I would lean toward one of those over the SVS.
Keep in mind that the Rythmik F15 is only $100 more than the F12. If you have room for it, it would be worthwhile getting the larger sub because of the extra output. Better to have that in case you need it then to spend this much money and wish you had later.

Plus 1. I was going to say the same thing. It would be $100. wisely spent if you can swing it!

Jeff
pronghorn/az is offline  
post #19 of 23 Old 07-13-2012, 07:38 AM
AVS Special Member
 
warpdrive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 4,096
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 31
Keep in mind that you are in Canada, and importing the Rythmik is going to cost a LOT more than the SVS SB12NSD or Paradigm Monitor Sub 12. You have to deal with shipping fees, brokerage. If anything goes wrong you have to mail it back to the US

I would choose the SVS myself given the two choices. It's has been reviewed in detail and it really is a solid performer. It sets a benchmark of what a good compact 12" sub should perform like. Since you can order it from sonicboomaudio.com, it's the best bet for Canadians

I actually like the grille design of the SVS too smile.gif

Certified Ultra Professional AVS Special Member Class A
warpdrive is offline  
post #20 of 23 Old 07-13-2012, 07:49 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
cel4145's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 11,591
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 179 Post(s)
Liked: 730
I didn't notice that, warpdrive. The OP might even be able to get two SB12s for what one Rythmik cost. Doesn't make sense if the Rythmik ends up being a lot more.

Your questions are answered: Speaker FAQ
HT: Energy RC-50, RC-LCR, Veritas VS Surrounds | Dual CHT SS 18.1s | Denon AVR-888 | Dayton SA1000 | Antimode 8033C
Desktop: CBM-170 SE | SVS SB-1000 | Audio-GD NFB-11 | HK 3390
Headphone & Portable HE-400 | K612 Pro | HP150 | DX50 | E12
cel4145 is offline  
post #21 of 23 Old 07-13-2012, 08:53 AM
Member
 
Jsawyer09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 73
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by warpdrive View Post

Keep in mind that you are in Canada, and importing the Rythmik is going to cost a LOT more than the SVS SB12NSD or Paradigm Monitor Sub 12. You have to deal with shipping fees, brokerage. If anything goes wrong you have to mail it back to the US
I would choose the SVS myself given the two choices. It's has been reviewed in detail and it really is a solid performer. It sets a benchmark of what a good compact 12" sub should perform like. Since you can order it from sonicboomaudio.com, it's the best bet for Canadians
I actually like the grille design of the SVS too smile.gif

This is an excellent point.

I'll reiterate that the SVS is the real deal. Although I clearly haven't heard the others, my recommendation stands. The SB12 is an outstanding sub in nearly every way. Its output and 'rightness' are just about perfect in my listening space. Performance-wise, it's a gem. Add to it what warpdrive and cel mentioned, and it really does become the proverbial no-brainer.
Jsawyer09 is offline  
post #22 of 23 Old 07-15-2012, 08:27 AM
Advanced Member
 
Stylz25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Edmonton,Alberta
Posts: 699
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 14
I have the Paradigm DSP-3400 and DSP-3200 subwoofers....would it be a mistake to incorporate a SVS PB13-Ultra into my home theater?? I know not mixing subs is not supposed to be done but I feel like I am missing some deep bass and want the SVS Ultra! smile.gif
Anyone with experience mixing subs? Do or dont?
Stylz25 is offline  
post #23 of 23 Old 07-15-2012, 10:11 AM
AVS Special Member
 
pronghorn/az's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 1,338
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stylz25 View Post

I have the Paradigm DSP-3400 and DSP-3200 subwoofers....would it be a mistake to incorporate a SVS PB13-Ultra into my home theater?? I know not mixing subs is not supposed to be done but I feel like I am missing some deep bass and want the SVS Ultra! smile.gif
Anyone with experience mixing subs? Do or dont?

The only "mistake" you would make is putting them together and have the SVS kick the Paradigm's behind! I had a Paradigm PS1200 that I recently replaced with a Rythmik FV15 and all I can say is WOW!! What I was missing in LFE was amazing!

Jeff
pronghorn/az is offline  
Reply Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off