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Hi, I'm looking for a sub recommendation to replace my dead Energy XLS-10. I previously had a Take 5 system with the XLS-10 and have slowly replaced everything. I had replaced most of my equipment with DefTech Mythos stuff, except for the sub. My house was struck by lightening and damaged numerous things including the receiver, subwoofer and one of the STSs. Below is what I'm replacing everything with.

My new-ish setup is as follows:
- Mythos Eight (center)
- Mythos STS (fronts)
- Mythos Gem XL (surround)
- Onkyo TX-NR818 (Receiver)
- ?? (sub)

I was never truly able to test the DefTech setup with the Energy sub as it got struck before I had all my pieces in, so I can't comment on that sound quality. Living room has vaulted ceiling, up to around 17ft at one section. It's primarily 80% TV/movie watching and maybe 20% music.

Any thoughts? As far as cost, I'd like to keep it around $600 or less if possible, but would be willing to go a bit higher if the price is right.

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Any suggestions or advice at all?
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There's no indication of your room size, so that's going to make any recommendations purely speculative. It might be hard to suggest something that will keep up with those fronts for $600 though, because they seem like nice speakers.

The Epik Legend springs immediately to mind however, as does the Outlaw Audio LFM1-Plus. The PB12-NSD would probably work, but it's outside your current budget. The XTZ W12.16 fits into your budget, so that's another one worth considering.

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The room itself is around 19 x 17. I'd be willing to go higher... probably wouldn't want to go over $800-900 though. Of the ones that you recommend, which would be the best fit? Or assuming this new budget are there any others?
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I'd still leave the PB-12NSD in the mix - that's a nice sub for the price. Instead of the Epik Legend you could step up to the more powerful Empire. You could also go with the larger Outlaw sub as well, the LFM-1 EX.

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I'll now need to go home and measure my existing dead sub. I've looked at a few unboxings of the PB-12NSD and it looks HUGE, way larger than my current setup. I'm not sure this will pass the wife test. Other smaller higher priced subs (DefTech SuperCube for instance) look to be way too small to output anything that would keep up with the STS. I looked at the PC-12NSD as well, but that looks almost as big, just more upright.
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Any recommendations between the following?

Sunfire SDS-12
SVS SB12-NSD
Klipsch SW-112

They are all around the same price, but more importantly, they are around the same size as what I'm replacing (around 16" H x 14" W x 15" D). Any thoughts? I can push my budget up to around $800-900, but still can't seem to find a good happy medium with regards to size. The SVS PB12 looks way too large for the area in which it will need to be placed.
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Tough to find a sub that size and at the price with significant output. The smaller the sub the greater the $ per amount of output and extension.

The NHT (http://www.nhthifi.com/Subwoofer-home-theater-B-12d?sc=12&category=3779) seems to have good output for its size. Just don't expect a lot below 30hz. That seems to apply to nearly every small sub.

Of those you've listed the SB12 seems to be the best based on reviews.

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Any recommendations between the following?
Sunfire SDS-12
SVS SB12-NSD
Klipsch SW-112

I would put the SB12-NSD at the top of that list, based upon my own proclivity for clarity and definition. Other options to consider are the Simply Sound Audio Rumba 12 and the XTZ W12.16.

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How about two of the klipsch rw-12d's on new egg. Or a hsu vtf3 mk4? Still looking at too much size. Svs cylinder might be your best bet.

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Just ordered SB12-NSD... hopefully this is good enough. It has to be better than my almost 10 year old ported Energy sub. I'll post an update once I get it. Thanks for the feedback!
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Just ordered SB12-NSD... hopefully this is good enough. It has to be better than my almost 10 year old ported Energy sub. I'll post an update once I get it. Thanks for the feedback!

You've made a great choice. I am absolutely thrilled with mine.
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