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Some years ago I bought my HT, I currently own :

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Subwoofer 8" S-8 Aperion Audio....

Room Size - Small


I want to change my Bass as I really dont feel is good enough for the speakers and I was checking the MicroVee 6.5 Inch Subwoofer from Velodyne, according to the suggestion on room size it could be a good fit, but downsizing from 8" to 6.5" will it give me what I am looking for? Greater impact and better performance?


I appreciate any suggestions and recommendations.

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Get bigger. At least a 10". And minimum 12" will come highly recommended here.

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Subwoofers need to move air the bigger the better in you case I would not look at anything under 12" myself. But go listen to some there are some.

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waht's this thread about? wink.gif

Don't shrink your subwoofer if you aren't happy with your 8"

Your room is small you say - what dimmensions? What kind of source material do you feel your current sub is lacking in?

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Well according to velodyne recommendations by size and sound level that is the one it is recommended, but to be honest just dont feel good downsizing my sub.

I estimate that my room is about 1600 cubic feet aprox.

I just feel that sometimes it lacks of the really low frequencies.

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1600 cu. ft will ruffly equal a 10x20 area I believe... so I would reccomend nothing less than a 12" sub.
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Depending on your budget I would reccomend the Outlaw EX/Plus, Hsu VTF-2 MK4 or VTF-3 MK4 & svs SB12-NSD .
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skally, narrowing a little bit more... from the 4 recommendations, which would you say is the best? thanks!

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Its hard to say really since I only have the Outlaw EX.... fantastic BTW!!! THe HSU & SVS are a very proven sub's as well but have never owen one frown.gif. THe Outlaw Plus will save you a few dollars as its does have a smaller cab., it does have alomst the ame specs as the EX thou.
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Are you into HT maore than music? about what percetage would you say??
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wow hard to split, i would say 60 movies 40 music.... aprox,

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Hi Jota,
and welcome to the forum. What is your budget?

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Its really hard to say.. really wink.gif. It all comes down to your budget & sixe reccomendation to be honest. The outlaw EX/Plus, HSU's & SVS are going to be your best bet with HT & Music. I see the Klipsch RDW12 is on sale from New Egg untill tomarrow for $300 shipped as I hear that a hard deal to pass up??

The Outlaws, HSU & SVS's are going to dig deeper in the HT are as they will tend to produce usable bass around the 18hz area. They do cost more but then you are paying for quality smile.gif.

I do have a PA-150 in my HT area as its an excellent sub esp. for $380 shipped but it does not di as deep as the Outlaw EX. IT starts to hit hard around the 35hz as that tells me it's more designed for music than HT but never the less its a very good sub!
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Get an Epik Legend. It has 2 opposing 12" woofers. It will be perfect for your room. $499.
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If $ is not an Issuse the I would look into the HSU VT-15 as its a def. performer! I plan on getting one is the near future
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Its really hard to say.. really wink.gif. It all comes down to your budget & sixe reccomendation to be honest. The outlaw EX/Plus, HSU's & SVS are going to be your best bet with HT & Music. I see the Klipsch RDW12 is on sale from New Egg untill tomarrow for $300 shipped as I hear that a hard deal to pass up??
The Outlaws, HSU & SVS's are going to dig deeper in the HT are as they will tend to produce usable bass around the 18hz area. They do cost more but then you are paying for quality smile.gif.
I do have a PA-150 in my HT area as its an excellent sub esp. for $380 shipped but it does not di as deep as the Outlaw EX. IT starts to hit hard around the 35hz as that tells me it's more designed for music than HT but never the less its a very good sub!

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The Aperion Audio S8 sub is rated 30 Hz to 180 Hz. Either the HSU VTF-2 MK4 or Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Plus would be plenty of SPL for your room size of 1600 cubic feet and give you solid output down to 20hz and just below. I think you would be very impressed by the difference.

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Thanks to all!!

I think on getting either the Outlaw or HSU, seems to be a good option, yet have to decide which one amongst those...

My budget is between under 650

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Well at the present time both the Outlaw & HSU will put you over the $650 budget, thats iff you were to step up t the hsu VTF-3 MK4 or Outlaw EX with shipping. Outlaw EX goes on sale once in awhile as it can be had for around $600 shipped.. the plus can had be had for less.
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Im interested in the LFM-1 EX N is it the same you are referring as to Outlaw?

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just noticed the Epik sub... seems to be a bargain... isnt it?

http://www.epiksubwoofers.com/legend.html

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Its a great sub. I've had it for 2 weeks,no complaint,just pounds like a mo fo. :P
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You know, reading and reviewing a bit more.. I think I decided to buy the SB12 instead of the Outlaw, not only I see good performance reviews but it also offers a piano finish which will match my current speakers.... I believe that I am stretching my budget to the top... any final considerations are appreciated


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The SB12 is a nice choice. It won't have quite the low end extension of the 12" Outlaw and HSU ported subs previously described, but it will produce nice bass from a smaller form factor, which it seems you were looking for when you originally mentioned the MicroVee.

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You know, reading and reviewing a bit more.. I think I decided to buy the SB12 instead of the Outlaw, not only I see good performance reviews but it also offers a piano finish which will match my current speakers.... I believe that I am stretching my budget to the top... any final considerations are appreciated


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You are going to give up a little performance for the finish. Svs was on my radar but ultimately I decided on going as low as possible and it is worth it. I ended up getting a b stock hsu 2.3 and recently scored a hsu vtf 3.3 for a very nice price. And all I have to say is once you go two subs or more you can't go back to one. biggrin.gif

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The SVS SB12 looks like a great sub as I'm sure it will work with your HT set up nicely! The SVS SB12 is a much smaller unit than the Outlaw thats for sure, so maybe they will work out better as it maybe easier for placement. I have never has a sealed sub before but others seem to love them. THe paino finish looks top notch as well wink.gif.
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I know I said I would go with the SB12, but last night something just was not feeling right... after much digging and thinking into it, I decided to buy the Rythmik F12 Direct Servo subwoofer - Signature Edition which can go as low as 16hz as well as its glossy finish will do a perfect match with my current setting..... now Im in the big dliema of either changing my surrounds, I think they might be too small now and/or adding 3 monoblocks from the Outlaws 2200 for the trhre front speakers.... any advise on this... (I recently started a new thread with this new consideration here thanks

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Congrats on the new sub! Looks like you pulled a "fast one" on us huh?? lol All joking aside smile.gif, before you go jumping into buying a different set up I would give it a test run for about two weeks or so as then you can deceide to purchase newer if needed.
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I would hold off on separate amps until after you've heard what you've already ordered can actually do in your room. You may find, I suspect, that your Onkyo 805 will power them just fine, I have a 125 x 5 Emotiva amp currently out of the loop, because it's really not needed, for me, in my room, but I really don't push it to reference levels, either. YMMV.
3 monoblocks at $350 each? Really? Did the budget just mushroom?? rolleyes.gif That's not supposed to happen quite that quickly !! eek.gif

Don't think you ever did give a room size... It matters. And your listening / viewing distance is ... ?

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Congrats on the new sub! Looks like you pulled a "fast one" on us huh?? lol All joking aside smile.gif, before you go jumping into buying a different set up I would give it a test run for about two weeks or so as then you can deceide to purchase newer if needed.

Seems to be a really good advise! thanks!! will let you know shortly! cool.gif

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I would hold off on separate amps until after you've heard what you've already ordered can actually do in your room. You may find, I suspect, that your Onkyo 805 will power them just fine, I have a 125 x 5 Emotiva amp currently out of the loop, because it's really not needed, for me, in my room, but I really don't push it to reference levels, either. YMMV.
3 monoblocks at $350 each? Really? Did the budget just mushroom?? rolleyes.gif That's not supposed to happen quite that quickly !! eek.gif

Don't think you ever did give a room size... It matters. And your listening / viewing distance is ... ?

Well, you might be right, and yes my budget suddenly went off! jeje Im glad my wife sponsors all these extra budget jeje.... smile.gif

Indeed that is one my concerns... will my Onkyo 805 be enough to power to whole set?
Will my surround speakers be small with the new sub?

hmmm, who knows.... The purchase of the monoblocks will be on hold until I feel the new set...

Lets say that I had a budget for the sub and another for the amp , just in case.... jeje meaning that I still have on budget about 1.5K aprox which are put on hold. Probably no additional amps needed instead a new set of surrounds.. who knows??wink.gifbiggrin.gif

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That's great,
And room size? including height? openings to other rooms?

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