Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95
so maybe i just forget the sub all together
That would be my suggestion as to wait until you get the speakers and then you can determine if a sub is needed. If it were my area I would want a sub as it adds more life to the music without a doubt, but then again thats me.
ABout the KEFs you are looking at: you posted "That sir is the point of this thread. My wife doesn't want huge speakers and a sub in the living room since I will have a media room. So I am trying to figure out what my options are. That is a big reason the def techs are looking like a good option". Looking at the specs of the KEF's they are HxWxD 42 x 11.8 x 12.9 in., thats quite a large set up??
Heres some info on the KEF R series I found on the UK post:
RE: Kef R500 vs R700.....
So I've had the R300's, R500's and R700's all on extended home auditions and this is what I have found so far:
R300's - £1000 - Amazing soundstage. Great bass but some fiddling with rear port bungs and positioning in relation to the rear wall was required to focus it. Great with vocal music but pretty dam good with anything you throw at them really. They do however get a bit confused with complex pieces of music.
R500's - £1500 - As above but with more oomph. Bass is deep and controlled. Also there is better separation within the soundstage and less tenancy for the presentation to be cloudy when the complexity increases. Female vocals are amazing but the metal drive units are exposed by some male vocal recordings which can lead to a slightly "metallic" and unnatural sound. This is a very small issue but it has been grating during prolonged listening periods. Not fussy about positioning.
R700's - £2000 - Hmmmmm. I only got these because I was so impressed by the R500,s and wanted to know what an extra £500 would get me. The bass is big. Really big. Could be weaponised with a few tweaks. Mind you it should be good coming from floorstanders weighing 27kg each. However after 30 hours of running in day and night I am feeling quite cold about these boxes. The incredible soundstage created by the much less expensive 300'sand 500's seems to have been lost in translation to the bigger cabinets, or maybe visa versa? Also the metallic male vocal issue is much more prevalent here.
All of the above leaves me more confused than when I started the auditioning. I am tempted to revert to the 500's but am also wondering about the 900's. Will going to the top of the range just give me more of the R700's traits or are the 900's in a different league?
Anyhow, have fun and good luck in your adventure