Originally Posted by shadyJ
Wilson Audio speakers aren't for those who are chiefly interested in performance, so I am not about to take their word about anything regarding speaker design. Perhaps they can teach me a thing or two about selling speakers to people with more money than sense. I would admit that in a perfect world you wouldn't want to place speakers right on top of subwoofers, for reasons of cabinet vibrations, and also simply to have that much less surface for nearby reflections, but I am sure the aural consequences of either are insignificant. There is no real reason not to do it unless, as I said above, the sub cabinet is poorly braced and is prone to vibrations. I doubt the subs that the OP is contemplating has that problem.
Also, you, as an engineer, ought to understand the limited usefulness of anecdotal evidence in the matter of audio perception, yet that is all you have provided us thus far to back your point. I'd love to see you correctly pick out a properly calibrated monophonic sub system and a properly calibrated stereophonic in a blind test.
I didn’t specifically want you call Wilson. I picked Wilson since it was bought up by another member in this thread. You can call ANY knowledgeable engineer in any good speaker company.
I didn't know that, "Wilson Audio speakers aren't for those who are chiefly interested in performance". I will have to have a serious talk with every acoustical engineer and audio journalists that I know who revere them precisely for their performance characteristics.
I am afraid that the aural consequences ARE significant. I and the engineers that I work with can hear this. Just because you cannot doesn’t mean it’s not there, the same as a blind man who cannot see the rainbow, doesn’t mean it’s not there.
“Also, you, as an engineer, ought to understand the limited usefulness of anecdotal evidence”, that is precisely why I didn’t offer any. EVERYTHING that comes out of my mind is meticulously experimented/tested/verified by I and my team of engineers. I have no choice since companies/customers pay me handsomely for this. I have NEVER passed on anecdotal evidence since that is blasphemy for a Scientist.
“I'd love to see you correctly pick out a properly calibrated monophonic sub system and a properly calibrated stereophonic in a blind test” Anytime, anyplace, since that IS how I arrived at the principle in the first place, which I have used in hundreds (if not thousands) of installations with positive results.
It appears that YOU are the one using anecdotal evidence since HAD you tried this for yourself using material that has Stereo Subsonic info (and high resolution equipment set up properly in a room) you too would have heard the difference. Every truly high-end system that images like crazy uses Stereo Subwoofers. Again, you don’t have to take my word for it. There are hundreds of experienced Audio engineer/Psychoacoustic Scientists that I have talked to that know this to be a fact.
It is also possible your ear/brain mechanism simply doesn’t have the capability. In that case you should accept the fact of life that just because you can’t do something doesn’t mean some else can’t. I kind of get the feeling you are one of those fellows who are in the “grapes are sour” camp. These people tend to scoff at anything they can’t afford, experience or understand.
My dear friend, if you can’t trust your fellow human beings who are offering you new information (to at least go out and try to find out for yourself), how are you going to learn something new?
Very curious, what kind of equipment (make/models) are you using to arive at your conclusions??