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So I just got a whole new system consisting of

3 energy lcr's for fronts
2 energy vs surrounds
2 energy rc10's rears

I have a packed old Sony sawm40 which isn't half bad but might look to replace.

I just missed out on a local hsu vtf 2-mk3 for $340 so I am a little bummed. The would have been an awesome pickup. Can I get something similar to that hsu sub in the 340-400 range that is front firing?

My room is about 12x24 with a tile floor. I have an area rug over that though.

I mostly play games and watch movies with occasional music but not much
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I think the closest you can get to that kind of output on your budget is the Klipsch Rw-12d. If you wait long enough, there may be other great used opportunities though, especially if you live near a large city.
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I just missed out on a local hsu vtf 2-mk3 for $340 ... Can I get something similar to that hsu sub in the 340-400 range that is front firing?
An SVS PB10-NSD. It's an impressive sub - plays loud, hits hard, digs deep - and gently-used units should be selling for (well) under $400.
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I think the BIC pl-200 is by far the best choice under $400. It is designed by HSU. I own the Bic, and it is amazing.

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An SVS PB10-NSD. It's an impressive sub - plays loud, hits hard, digs deep - and gently-used units should be selling for (well) under $400.

Do you know any other places to look for used Subwoofers?
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I think the BIC pl-200 is by far the best choice under $400. It is designed by HSU. I own the Bic, and it amazing.

Thanks!

Can anyone else speak to this sub and how it would compare to the VTF2-MK3 or the SVS Here?

I can get this BIC for $328 shipped which is nice.

My basement is about 12 x22
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Do you know any other places to look for used Subwoofers?
The biggest U.S. name I'm familiar with - as far as used electronics are concerned - is Audiogon.com. Of course, there's also eBay, craigslist, usaudiomart.com, etc.
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The biggest U.S. name I'm familiar with - as far as used electronics are concerned - is Audiogon.com. Of course, there's also eBay, craigslist, usaudiomart.com, etc.

Cool didnt know of audiogon and usaudiomart.
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How would the BIC be from an upgrade standpoint to my current SA WM40. I stuffed it years ago to make it tighter

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-SAWM40-Home-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B00005I9RO/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
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How would the BIC be from an upgrade standpoint to my current SA WM40. I stuffed it years ago to make it tighter
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-SAWM40-Home-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B00005I9RO/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

The BIC would completely destroy that Sony sub.

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The BIC would completely destroy that Sony sub.

I am also really liking the below I found for $440 locally

Velodyne Minivee 8

How does that stack against the BIC and is it worth the Extra $100? I still need to get speaker stands so that $100 could be used elsewhere if not a massive upgrade.
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I also found a SVS PB12-NSD for $400 shipped. How is that over the BIC?
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Definitely avoid the Velodyne, while they make great subs, 8" is simply way too small to give any real low freq. extension. The bic would be far better.

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I also found a SVS PB12-NSD for $400 shipped. How is that over the BIC?

would blow it away! jump on it!

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I also found a SVS PB12-NSD for $400 shipped.
I used to own a BASH-equipped PB12-NSD (it replaced my BASH-equipped PB10-NSD) and, while it wasn't the greatest ("tightest") sub for music (IMO only - YMMV), it was a tremendous sub for movies.

If the one you've found is in 100% working order and acceptable (to you) cosmetic condition, you should most definitely jump on it! cool.gif
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Definitely avoid the Velodyne, while they make great subs, 8" is simply way too small to give any real low freq. extension. The bic would be far better.
For movies maybe.

Not for music. Bigger driver doesn't mean better.


In the meantime, I have a question. What advantages does front firing sub have over down firing? or vice versa?
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For movies maybe.
Not for music. Bigger driver doesn't mean better.
In the meantime, I have a question. What advantages does front firing sub have over down firing? or vice versa?

none other than being more pet/kid friendly (the downfiring being unaccesable even with a grille on the front firing)

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I also found a SVS PB12-NSD for $400 shipped. How is that over the BIC?

I would jump all over that! My suggestion is to call the owner and get the serial number from them. Then call SVS and see if there is still a warranty on it.
As compared to the BIC, there is no comparison between the 2.

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I would jump all over that! My suggestion is to call the owner and get the serial number from them. Then call SVS and see if there is still a warranty on it.
As compared to the BIC, there is no comparison between the 2.

Someone from here who newly registered said he had one that was practically new. It sat in storage for 2.5 years. Does PayPal have buyer protection outside ebay?

The pictures looked good. Always skeptical of used.
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Someone from here who newly registered said he had one that was practically new. It sat in storage for 2.5 years. Does PayPal have buyer protection outside ebay?

I think it does as long as you don't "gift" someone the money. Check PayPal's site. I'm sure they've addressed the type of coverage.

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I am also really liking the below I found for $440 locally
Velodyne Minivee 8
How does that stack against the BIC and is it worth the Extra $100? I still need to get speaker stands so that $100 could be used elsewhere if not a massive upgrade.

Those mini subs are great for their size. I think many would be surprised at how good an 8" or the equivalent 6" can sound. But, you won't get a low FR like you can with a 12" ported. These are fantastic if space is limited, but if you have room, get a bigger sub.
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I used to own a BASH-equipped PB12-NSD (it replaced my BASH-equipped PB10-NSD) and, while it wasn't the greatest ("tightest") sub for music (IMO only - YMMV), it was a tremendous sub for movies.
If the one you've found is in 100% working order and acceptable (to you) cosmetic condition, you should most definitely jump on it! cool.gif

Did SVS have 3 or 5 yr warrenties and do you need original receipt? Does warranty transfer?
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Did SVS have 3 or 5 yr warrenties and do you need original receipt? Does warranty transfer?
I don't recall the length of the warranty but for answers to that question and to your other questions, you should consider taking wichitadisciple's advice (post #19):
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My suggestion is to call the owner and get the serial number from them. Then call SVS and see if there is still a warranty on it.
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I don't recall the length of the warranty but for answers to that question and to your other questions, you should consider taking wichitadisciple's advice (post #19):

Is 350 shipped still a good deal without warranty
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Is 350 shipped still a good deal without warranty
IMO, $350 shipped is an excellent deal...assuming, of course, that the sub is in 100% working order. Buying sight-unseen is almost always a gamble. If you feel good about the vendor and the sub he's selling, go for it; otherwise, let this one go. There'll be others.
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I think $350 is a good deal without a warranty.... When I bought my PC12 it was used, I was able to get the serial number from the seller and then contacted SVS. I gave them the info and they confirmed that it still had 1 year left on the warranty. When I spoke to the rep over the phone they never mentioned the warranty NOT transferring with the sub. When in doubt I would call and ask.

I think Paypal has buyer protection... depends on how/who you are sending money to. You could always write paypal and ask, but good luck getting a response from them. Sending an email would be the best way, you will never get them on the phone.... I don't even think they have phone number listed for you to call. I had issues with them in the past and could never get anyone on the phone. But overall if something goes wrong with your purchase they are normally very quick to get it resolved.

If the seller won't give you the serial number.... run away screaming like a little girl !!!

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I think $350 is a good deal without a warranty.... When I bought my PC12 it was used, I was able to get the serial number from the seller and then contacted SVS. I gave them the info and they confirmed that it still had 1 year left on the warranty. When I spoke to the rep over the phone they never mentioned the warranty NOT transferring with the sub. When in doubt I would call and ask.
I think Paypal has buyer protection... depends on how/who you are sending money to. You could always write paypal and ask, but good luck getting a response from them. Sending an email would be the best way, you will never get them on the phone.... I don't even think they have phone number listed for you to call. I had issues with them in the past and could never get anyone on the phone. But overall if something goes wrong with your purchase they are normally very quick to get it resolved.
If the seller won't give you the serial number.... run away screaming like a little girl !!!
noh he has been pretty good and gave me his number and will get me the serial
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My biggest gripe is just the warranty. God forbif it breaks and I then am out $100-200 fixing the thing.
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On SVS website is says...

Warranty

What is the warranty period on my new SVS product?
SVS has a 5-year bumper-to-bumper warranty, which is one of the longest and most comprehensive in the consumer electronics industry. Warranty exclusions include (but are not necessarily limited to) force majeure, acts of nature, AC power surges, and abuse.

So as long as that sub is less than 5 years old, you're set ..... but as everyone has already said, make sure that it is in 100% working condition. Make the guy put it in writing if you have to.

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