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post #1 of 8 Old 11-02-2012, 09:36 PM - Thread Starter
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I am ordering my speakers this weekend and I do not know what sub to get, I read the ML isn't great for movies and that the Klipsch has problems with boards burning out. This is my price range and they seemed like the best bang for the buck but I just don't know what would be best. It would be used for about 50% TV, 30% Movies and 20% Games. The room is 22 x 22 and I will be using a Denon 2112ci, with Polk Monitor50 series II towers and Monitor30 series II surrounds. Thanks in advanced
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For a little more than the Klipsch, you can get the BIC F12. That's the budget entry level HT sub that get's recommended most around here. It's a 12" and has more output than the subs you are considering.

As for as the 8" vs 10" subs you are considering? What sub is best is tied to room volume. A little 8" sub like the ML won't give you a lot of output. So unless you are using it in a bedroom, the 10" makes more sense.
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OK now I am starting to second guess myself, I am falling down the subwoofer rabbit hole. I am just about ready to pull the trigger on the F12 but I am worried it will be too much for my speakers (cs1, monitor50s and monitor30s for surround). Will this be a good match or should I look for something else?
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Won't be too much. In fact, a smaller, less powerful sub in your room would probably not be enough. You'll calibrate your setup using Audyssey on your Denon receiver. Set the speakers to small and a crossover of 80hz, and Audyssey will typically have done a good job of setting the rest.

One tip: subs tend to work better with Audyssey when the gain (volume) on the sub is set such that Audyssey arrives at a subwoofer channel level close to 0db. You may have to adjust the gain on the sub and rerun Audyssey more than once to achieve that. I usually do it for just one listening position the first time or two to get it close, then run it for all listening positions.

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No, I don't think one f12 would be too much. My theater room isn't huge and I am running two of them.

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Won't be too much. In fact, a smaller, less powerful sub in your room would probably not be enough. You'll calibrate your setup using Audyssey on your Denon receiver. Set the speakers to small and a crossover of 80hz, and Audyssey will typically have done a good job of setting the rest.
One tip: subs tend to work better with Audyssey when the gain (volume) on the sub is set such that Audyssey arrives at a subwoofer channel level close to 0db. You may have to adjust the gain on the sub and rerun Audyssey more than once to achieve that. I usually do it for just one listening position the first time or two to get it close, then run it for all listening positions.

Good advice, I will give that a shot and see how it does. I guess it is better to get to much and turn it down if need be than to get too small.
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Good advice, I will give that a shot and see how it does. I guess it is better to get to much and turn it down if need be than to get too small.

You won't have to turn it down. Audyssey will level match it with your speakers for optimal integration smile.gif

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Everything is up and calibrated and it sounds great! Thanks for the help everyone.
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