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Def Tech supercube has been rated at 650W peak.

It has a smaller 7.5inch driver.

My room is 22 X 14. Movies are primary use.

Would Supercube provide good effect compared to F12 or other budget speakers.

I know F12 is massive. But would the cube design of supercube provide atleast beat out Velodyne 10-incher.

I am looking at subs which can support 220V international use.
So thats why I have a crazy comparison.

I can get all the three subs at similar price.

I like Supercube as it is smaller size. But I am not sure if it can fill my space.
I am not looking for crazy high volume. Just a decent setup in Living Room of an apartment building. So cannot scare neighbours.

By the way I am going to be using Jamo S426 with a Pioneer 5.1 receiver.
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I have a Def Tech Supercube 6000... It has a 9" driver with two 8" passives. My room is 18x25 and it does NOT put out much bass. I would stay away from the supercubes. BIC is not known for their products so you have to look at the Velodyne. To be frank you will need a minimum of a 12" driver to get decent bass for that room.

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Def Tech supercube has been rated at 650W peak.
It has a smaller 7.5inch driver.
My room is 22 X 14. Movies are primary use.
Would Supercube provide good effect compared to F12 or other budget speakers.
I know F12 is massive. But would the cube design of supercube provide atleast beat out Velodyne 10-incher.
I am looking at subs which can support 220V international use.
So thats why I have a crazy comparison.
I can get all the three subs at similar price.
I like Supercube as it is smaller size. But I am not sure if it can fill my space.
I am not looking for crazy high volume. Just a decent setup in Living Room of an apartment building. So cannot scare neighbours.
By the way I am going to be using Jamo S426 with a Pioneer 5.1 receiver.

I would consider the Super Cube 8000. Heftier design with some nice features like remote control.

http://www.definitivetech.com/products/supercube-8000
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The BIC F-12 is a very popular budget sub woofer. I own one and it has been a great purchase. In a large space like that, you aren't going to get significant bass from any sub under $600. Whichever you choose, make sure to place it correctly, you can get much better results with proper placement. Look up the "sub crawl" method for a good technique.

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I would consider the Super Cube 8000. Heftier design with some nice features like remote control.
http://www.definitivetech.com/products/supercube-8000

I have the SC8000, and while I think it does really well for its size, IMO it would not be adequate for a room that size. Mine is in a 13x14x9 sealed room and at times can struggle with really heavy LFE content movies.

The remote is really useful though as many sources have drastically different bass content. For example, most blu-rays I watch I have the volume/gain of the sub around 18-20. Last night I watched Thor via Amazon prime and I had to turn it down to 8 in order to keep the sub from going into protection. Without a remote I's have been up and down 10 times adjusting the gain or into my AVR's archaic menu cutting the boost to the LFE channel.

Anyway, you might want to get a pair of whatever $300 subs you're looking at.

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Thanks for all your comments.

I went with the supercube.
I got one from Bajawaverunner, they have a 240V version. I got a good deal, super cheap price.

My family did not want a big sub in the living room, BIC F12 was out. So I had to compromise.
I did not like low end small subs - Energy 10, Martin Logan Dynamo 8 inch, Polk PSW10, Klipsch SW 350.

I hope this supercube performs better than the smaller cheap low end subs.

I realize I can never get a good coverage from this. But atleast it is a big upgrade from cheap HTIB.

I will go for a better sub when I get my HT room.
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I don't know what your budget is, but I owned a Deb Tech SC1 which was their $1200 model at the time. I barely could fill a 11x11 room. I upgraded to an SVS PB12NSD and it rocked the room. I have it in a 21x12.5 room now and it's still great. It's a huge sub though. SVS does make a smaller one though. The SB12NSD.

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I am looking at cheapest subs. $200-$250 was my budget.

$225 is what I spent for Def Tech.

BIC is $200, Velodyne is $220.

I have also felt the same way. But I thought I will get this for now.
Size was a big concern. My family wanted smaller ones, as this is for a living room setup. I had to choose between HTIB and this.

If I can get a decent sub later, I can put this def tech at the back for a 2 sub setup or move this to my bedroom.

If not, I can always sell it. It is a very cheap price and I did not want to lose the deal.
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