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post #1321 of 1345 Old 04-06-2015, 02:57 AM
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I have a few questions, as I just bought an F12 and have been messing around with the settings to figure out what is optimal.

I was advised on this forum to keep the sub volume at 2-3 (out of 10) on the dial. If I do that an run the calibration on my Sony receiver, it puts the sub to +6 dB (max is +10 dB on this receiver).

Now I am reading that this is wrong? And that I am running the sub too hard (I am assuming that's what running the sub hot means).

So should I turn the volume on the subwoofer itself up? Maybe to 5/10 and then re-run the calibration? And see if it's closer to 0?

I actually turned it down to +3 dB on the receiver because I don't think +6 is necessary.
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I have both the SVS SB-1000 & SVS PB-1000.

I started with SB1000 and really liked it - still do. It hits hard and does shake the room often. However, I had heard the PB1000 was more powerful and would offer a lower bass at 19hz so ordered that also with the idea to sell the SB1000.

After much testing i couldn't/can't really tell the difference between the two to any degree to say one is better than the other. That was a surprise. I had thought the PB would overshadow the SB

Although one is ported and one sealed; in the end (and to those i have shown also to get 2nd, 3rd opinions); these two subs seem to have more in common than not.

Also, contrary to what i had read; i have mixed both together (one at front on 0 and one at back on 180; both set on -1 db, both on 2 o'clock). I do not hear any bad/negative bass cancellation or any issues whatsoever mixing these 2 subs; that would warrant me only using one at a time, or thinking it was a bad mixture. Those with far better ability at hearing the differences/negatives may disagree if they listened of course. So these 2 points may seem a surprise to some; but it is my experience and may help others looking into these subs. In the end i think your ears are more important than SBL meters etc; and this is why i am using both as a set - they sound good to me and my guests!
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I have both the SVS SB-1000 & SVS PB-1000.

I started with SB1000 and really liked it - still do. It hits hard and does shake the room often. However, I had heard the PB1000 was more powerful and would offer a lower bass at 19hz so ordered that also with the idea to sell the SB1000.

After much testing i couldn't/can't really tell the difference between the two to any degree to say one is better than the other. That was a surprise. I had thought the PB would overshadow the SB

Although one is ported and one sealed; in the end (and to those i have shown also to get 2nd, 3rd opinions); these two subs seem to have more in common than not.

Also, contrary to what i had read; i have mixed both together (one at front on 0 and one at back on 180; both set on -1 db, both on 2 o'clock). I do not hear any bad/negative bass cancellation or any issues whatsoever mixing these 2 subs; that would warrant me only using one at a time, or thinking it was a bad mixture. Those with far better ability at hearing the differences/negatives may disagree if they listened of course. So these 2 points may seem a surprise to some; but it is my experience and may help others looking into these subs. In the end i think your ears are more important than SBL meters etc; and this is why i am using both as a set - they sound good to me and my guests!

I'm deciding between the pb 1000 or the sb 1000.
so you're saying that sb 1000 kicks as hard as the pb 1000 does?

i'm leaning to get the sb 1000 but am afraid that i will miss out the lows/deeps of the pb!
my room is really small and space is limited but pb 1000 does fit.

i will be using it with my Sony TA-Fa5es amp and Boston Acoustics A25 and am looking for advice which subwoofer to pick!
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I'm deciding between the pb 1000 or the sb 1000.
so you're saying that sb 1000 kicks as hard as the pb 1000 does?

i'm leaning to get the sb 1000 but am afraid that i will miss out the lows/deeps of the pb!
my room is really small and space is limited but pb 1000 does fit.

i will be using it with my Sony TA-Fa5es amp and Boston Acoustics A25 and am looking for advice which subwoofer to pick!

No the SB does not "kick as hard" as the PB depending on what you mean by "kick as hard". The SB (24Hz @-3db) can't go as low as the PB (19hz @-3db) and it won't go as loud (however, in a small room you may not need it to go as loud.
If you get the chance listen to some of the podcasts on AVRANT. They are often asked about the SB1000 PB1000 comparison and more or less echo what I have said above.
If you're in the US you can always get both and return the one that does not suit you. SVS are very good at taking returns. I'd also suggest talking to SVS as they are known for giving solid advice and will advise you without pushing their more expensive products if they are not needed.


I have the PB1000 in a roughly 2000sq foot room and it's perfect. It was to replace a B&W PV1 although now I use them together . They're placed on roughly the midpoint of opposing walls and they work really well this way giving smooth low bass around the room.
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The sb1000 is a great little sub. The PB1000 will give a little more lower rumble. If space is an issue in a small room - sb1000 is a great option. And it does go low and rumbles very well also. My room/walls still shake even when it plays alone. Only point is (now i have 2 subs) is always consider 2 subs as a future plan; so much the better. But each person idea of 'enough' bass is different; so if you can pre-test them - do it.
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thanks for the feedback,

the SB1000 here cost 550 euro and the pb1000 costs 500,

im leaning towards sb1000 since i have a small room but pb1000 is also a viable option.

what would u pick with SB1000 being 50 euro's more than the PB1000, is it worth the extra money?
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If you have a small room I'd get the SB1000.

I've moved from ported SVS to sealed SVS as they seem to work better in my rooms.
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Hi everyone! I'm a newbie. Hope I'm welcome here.
Sr, Fatbottom when you say small room what room size are you referring to? My room is 19ft (L) x 11 (W) x 9 (H). Is it considered small? Im getting the sb1000 but still have an option to get the sb 2000 to pair with my audioengine 5+. Will the sb 1000 perform well in my room or should i buy the sb 2000 instead? I'm worried that sb2000 would be an overkill for my room size or for my speakers.thanks
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Just ordered an sb1000 ... I hope I like it
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Hi everyone! I'm a newbie. Hope I'm welcome here.
Sr, Fatbottom when you say small room what room size are you referring to? My room is 19ft (L) x 11 (W) x 9 (H). Is it considered small? Im getting the sb1000 but still have an option to get the sb 2000 to pair with my audioengine 5+. Will the sb 1000 perform well in my room or should i buy the sb 2000 instead? I'm worried that sb2000 would be an overkill for my room size or for my speakers.thanks
My room is smaller than yours. I had a sub similar to SB2000 and for movies it was pretty mediocre. But then the previous sub was PC Ultra 13.

For music, SB1000 and SB2000 will be plenty. But for movies, IMO they won't be. They'll go loud enough, but won't give you that body and room shaking bass the higher end subs do.
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Set up my sb1000 tonight. Audyssey set my sub to 0db. I ended up tweaking slightly ... Adjusted sub dial to 1 pm and avr to -1. So far so good


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Can anyone comment on how steep the crossover is for the SB-1000? Is it pretty easy to adjust and integrate with mains?
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I started researching subwoofers around $200 (Klipsch 12 Synergy) and have started to consider a jump to the PB1000. I noticed some are selling open box on Amazon for $450.

Thoughts on going that route? Would it still be covered under the warranty?
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I started researching subwoofers around $200 (Klipsch 12 Synergy) and have started to consider a jump to the PB1000. I noticed some are selling open box on Amazon for $450.

Thoughts on going that route? Would it still be covered under the warranty?
Why get open box when for $49 more you get a new one direct from the factory? My PB-1000 is out on the truck for delivery RIGHT NOW!

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Why get open box when for $49 more you get a new one direct from the factory? My PB-1000 is out on the truck for delivery RIGHT NOW!
If it's from an SVS-authorized retailer (e.g., OneCall), then it'll carry the SVS five-year warranty. I ordered my PB-1000 from the SVS outlet last Friday for $449.99 and it is in pristine condition!
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If it's from an SVS-authorized retailer (e.g., OneCall), then it'll carry the SVS five-year warranty. I ordered my PB-1000 from the SVS outlet last Friday for $449.99 and it is in pristine condition!
SVS outlet I would trust! Not sure about other places.

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SVS outlet I would trust! Not sure about other places.
OneCall is good! I almost purchased through them, but decided to go straight through SVS since the price was the same and such.

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I just snagged an Outlet PB1000 off the SVS website. I've been watching and waiting for a few days, and noticed the PB1000's seem to disappear rapidly when they pop up. I'm hoping that's due to how good of a buy they are.

Now the wait begins!
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I just snagged an Outlet PB1000 off the SVS website. I've been watching and waiting for a few days, and noticed the PB1000's seem to disappear rapidly when they pop up. I'm hoping that's due to how good of a buy they are.

Now the wait begins!
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Appreciate it. I'm replacing and old Acculine A-Sub with a dead amp. It was a decent little sub, but I'm hoping the PB1000 will be a huge step up. I've been wanting to try an SVS sub for a long time.

I'll set it up with YPAO on a Yamaha RX-V375, and hope I can get a good starting point. I have pretty limited placement options, but since the old sub could fill the room pretty well I don't anticipate the room limitations to cause many issues.
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I just snagged an Outlet PB1000 off the SVS website. I've been watching and waiting for a few days, and noticed the PB1000's seem to disappear rapidly when they pop up. I'm hoping that's due to how good of a buy they are.

Now the wait begins!
I'm glad I snagged mine when I did. I ordered the PB-1000 for $449.99, and it said that it had a couple of cosmetic defects; however, when i inspected it, I couldn't find a single one. The PB-1000 quickly goes out of stock. I look forward to hooking it up this weekend!
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I'm setting up a 3.1 system for my bedroom and would like help with my decision between the SVS SB-1000 and PB-1000. My bedroom is roughly 1500 cubic feet (13'10" x 13'10" x 7'10") and has an open hallway which does make the room seem a little bigger then it is. My usage will be around 50% movies & tv shows / 20% games / 30% music. I need the sub to perform well up to about 100Hz since I will be putting small bookshelf speakers that won't perform all that well under 100Hz. Most of the time this setup will be playing at medium volume levels. It will be a rare occasion that I crank the system up (that's mostly reserved for my primary setup in the living room).

The SB-1000 is appealing because it will fit a little better into the space I'm allotting for a sub. It's also a sealed design which many people seem to recommend for a smallish room like mine. And since I will rarely be cranking the system up to high volumes, I thought the SB-1000 could suit me well.

The PB-1000 also looks like a great option but it will be a tighter fit in my room. The greater depth will only give me about 4" from the rear wall, although the SVS customer service rep assured me that is plenty of space. I'm also intrigued by the lower 19 Hz frequency response and the ported design offering a bigger impact when watching a movie or playing a game.
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I'm setting up a 3.1 system for my bedroom and would like help with my decision between the SVS SB-1000 and PB-1000. My bedroom is roughly 1500 cubic feet (13'10" x 13'10" x 7'10") and has an open hallway which does make the room seem a little bigger then it is. My usage will be around 50% movies & tv shows / 20% games / 30% music.
Being an SB-1000 owner I would say go for PB-1000 in your case where your preferences are movie/tv/games/music in that order. I use my SB-1000 strictly for music in my 2 ch setup and added a ported Outlaw later for movies/tv stuff. While between SB and PB 1000 both have same amp / watts and even if SB has a bigger driver, by specs PB goes below 20Hz which could be better for movies. Also from personal listening experience the flavor of SB is more oriented to music. For me it is very tight and precise which combines well with my towers and music while the ported outlaw sounds better for movies with its rumbling nature which I would assume PB-1000 would have . I am sure that SVS should support a trial and you can swap them if you prefer one over the other.

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