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post #1 of 23 Old 11-30-2012, 02:05 PM - Thread Starter
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I was just browsing my local craigslist and there is a VELODYNE DPS-12 for sale.
Im trying to do some research on it but can't come up with a decent idea what this sub should cost used or what they last sold for new.
Its lightly used and in good condition.

Also ihad a bic h100, what type of comparison would these two subs have so I have an idea on how good or bad this VELODYNE is.

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I recently picked up the DPS-10 at a pawn shop. They were asking $199 for it. I talked them down to $125. It is honestly one of the best sounding 10" subs I've heard. I know there are better, but not that I've heard and not for what I paid. I would love to have a DPS-12. I saw one in the Dallas Craigslist for something like $325-350. New the 12 was only about $100 more than the 10 so I wouldn't pay more than $250 for it. But if you can talk him down, snatch that thing up.
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I actually still have my Velodyne DPS-12. I have not used it in sometime. I replaced it with 2 Klipsch RW12s and 2 BIC PL200s. I will just say this...I love the subs I have now but the only reason I got different subs for my theater was because I could not find another DPS-12. I would love to have 4 of them in my theater. To this day I still say that it was the best sub I have heard in my theater. It does not go that deep...I think the lower end spec was 24 or 25hz. Room gain would probably bring it closer to 20hz. I got good deep bass from that sub in my room and the best way to describe the sound is relaxed and smooth. It never seemed to push really hard no matter how loud I had it. I think maybe it had something to do with having a slotted port and not a round port. I have not sold it because I'm not sure what to do with it or if I might find another use for it one day in another set up.
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I actually still have my Velodyne DPS-12. I have not used it in sometime. I replaced it with 2 Klipsch RW12s and 2 BIC PL200s. I will just say this...I love the subs I have now but the only reason I got different subs for my theater was because I could not find another DPS-12. I would love to have 4 of them in my theater. To this day I still say that it was the best sub I have heard in my theater. It does not go that deep...I think the lower end spec was 24 or 25hz. Room gain would probably bring it closer to 20hz. I got good deep bass from that sub in my room and the best way to describe the sound is relaxed and smooth. It never seemed to push really hard no matter how loud I had it. I think maybe it had something to do with having a slotted port and not a round port. I have not sold it because I'm not sure what to do with it or if I might find another use for it one day in another set up.
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Since you have both, would you prefer an rw12 or the dps-12? Now keep in mind this wont be a pair just a single sub.
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That is hard to say. For just a single sub I would say the Klipsch RW12. The only reason would be it is louder. It has a peak of 825watts. The Velodyne DPS 12 is rated at 400 watts peak. I use my room for movies only so I enjoy a little more power at times. With that being said, the Velodyne in my opinion has a smoother more relaxed sound. If I was getting pairs I would go with the DPS-12.
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I have a pair of DSP 12's, got them at less than half price five years ago when they were discontinued.
Both still going strong and will dip to just below 20Hz. Very smooth, and great for music too.

Last year I added a 15" Velodyne (DLS5000) as well, also discontinued and half price.
At 1000 watt (2000 peak) class D amp it's got a lot more power than both 12's combined, but I wouldn't want to give up any of them.


The DSP12's were $750 new, the DLS5000 was $1000 (msrp)

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Do you think $185 is to high of a price for a used one?
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Sounds like a fair price to me, it's a pretty old unit but I've driven mine pretty hard almost daily and feel like they'll last forever.
They still go for as high as $250-$300 on the used classifieds. I would highly recommend running two if you can.

The only qwerky thing was setting the output levels with a series of flashing blue light sequences. But you only need to do it once.

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Yes that is the only thing I don't like about the DPS-12. The volume setting. It is a little daunting to set it just right but once you set it you don't need to do it again.

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I didn't even bother to count the flashes. I set the volume by ear and I'm pretty satisfied. I would like to get a SPL meter and set it that way.
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Well I bought it, ill see how I like it later tonight.
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So how do you like it?
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So how do you like it?

So far so good, would love to have another one. It was very muddy sounding when I put it where my other sub was, Tried a few spots and it didn't seem to help. Ended up turning it so the driver and port face the wall and it sounds much better now.
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Did your old sub have a rear facing port?
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Try the Jazz setting, it's EQ'd for the tightest bass but will still dip as low as movie mode.

if you didn't get a manual, you can DL one here: http://velodyne.com/pdf/dps/dps_manual_english.pdf

 

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Did your old sub have a rear facing port?

Yes I had a BIC h100, the amp blew on it.
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Yes I had a BIC h100, the amp blew on it.

That's probably why it sounded different. You were used to the extra gain with having the port firing toward the wall.
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That's probably why it sounded different. You were used to the extra gain with having the port firing toward the wall.
There is no extra gain with a rear firing port. The radiation pattern from a port, and from the cone too for that matter on a sub, is omni-directional. Where boundary reinforcement is concerned it will occur when the source, be it a port or a cone, is less than 1/4 wavelength from the boundary. At 80Hz that's 3.5 feet; at 35Hz, where a typical port has the most output, that's 8 feet.
However, aiming the cone at the wall can improve low end response by better acoustic loading of the driver, as can varying the distance to the wall with a rear-firing port. It also will reduce above bandwidth harmonics, which do not radiate omni-directionally, giving a cleaner sound.

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I have a Velodyne DPS-12 for sale in the DFW area...first $220 gets it.

Replaced it with a Klipsch RW-12d to match my other reference series.

I'm in the Allen area.
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I have a Velodyne DPS-12 for sale in the DFW area...first $220 gets it.

Replaced it with a Klipsch RW-12d to match my other reference series.

I'm in the Allen area.

I'd buy it in a heart beat if I didn't already buy two Klipsch RW-12d's. The DPS-12 was the first truly great sub I ever heard, back when they had them setup at Circuit City. Ahhhh, now those were the days. smile.gif

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That is where I got my Velodyne DPS-12 from. Circuit City had it set up in the room with all the other speakers. I went in there every week just to listen to it. I finally got the cash to get it and they were sold out !!! They did have an open box buy so I got that one. I still have it to this day and it still works just fine. I'm not using it but it was my first real subwoofer so I don't want to give it up. When I decided to go with dual subs, I could not find another one for sale. If I would have found one I'm quite sure I would be running two or four of them in my theater right now.
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I bought one of these dps-12 models for 20 bucks and it doesn't work. A couple of burned capacity-thingies on the circuit board. (I'll try not to lose you fellas with my obviously superior technical grasp of the issues…) and I'm wondering if I could just rip the guts out, and put in my own amp, in a bastard-child of a home dyi'er?

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Post your issue up in the Velodyne support thread, http://www.avsforum.com/t/304306/offical-velodyne-support-thread/8970

Rob Morse is there often to help out AVS members, even with older Velo's that just need a new amp section.

 

My pair of DPS12's are still going strong, as is the Big 15" (DLS5000R) in the rear

 

I finally found a matching 15" on-line , and it's brand spanking new, in the box, never been opened. eek.gif

 

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