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I know this has been asked a million times, but I need a recommendation for a new sub. I do more reading than posting on here so if I've missed something, my apologies.
I LOVE my RT1000's but they're a bit under par in the bass department. Looking to supplement/replace with a dedicated powered sub in a good sized room (17x22x15) which is open to other parts of the house, not a truly "confined" room.

This will be used for everything from movies to music.


Budget: $500-ish
AVR: Pioneer VSX-822-K
Fronts: Polk RT1000
Center: Polk Audio CS20
Surround: Definitive ProMonitor 800


Suggestions? If I left out details I'll be happy to clarify.

Thanks!
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I currently have pb1000 from SVS which is $499 right now with free shipping and I couldn't be any happier. Deep sonic levels felt in a almost similar sized room of 13x26x9 which is open to other areas as well. Plus you get a free 45day in home trial which you truly can't beat.
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Suggestions?

Not trying to be flip or disrespectful but for a room that size, my first recommendation would be to increase your budget. In the short, it's all about pumping low frequency energy into the room; pressurization, thump, thump. That takes amplification and amplifiers means "MON-NEY!"

You don't have to put anything in hock but the least expensive recommendation I can make would be a pair of Klipsch, RW-12d's at a current delivered price of $600.00.

That deal ends today. Ya snooze, you lose. Like that.

From here, quite literally, the sky's the limit. From the Klipsch, RW-12d, I would recommend a pair of SVS, PB12-NSD's but delivered, that would set one back $1,538.00. I think one gets a price break if they buy a pair. You'd have to give them a call to find out.

If because of the price, you're hesitant, I understand. Get a pair of RW-12d's, get them up and running. Add a DSPeaker, Anti-Mode, 8033S II (delivered $450.00) to balance the subs with the room acoustics and go from there. My opinion, based on what you posted, a minimum would be a pair of RW-12d's with an Anti-Mode to deal with your room's, subwoofer destroying acoustics.

(Sound waves bounce around in a room creating nulls and modes or peaks and valleys which are the enemy of sound waves.)

Hope the above helps get you going in the right direction.

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I agree. Two RW-12D subs will do you better in a room that size than one $500 sub. The extra $100 will be worth it if you are able to swing it.
If you have a small seating area and can get the sub in the right location one might do. Depends on your sub location options.

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Newegg has the RW-12D for $300 if you use their promo code.....that seems to be a great deal is it not?
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Newegg has the RW-12D for $300 if you use their promo code.....that seems to be a great deal is it not?

You will not do any better for the price.

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Ok thanks guys, I appreciate the honest feedback. I'm the type that likes to hear the truth, not what I want to hear.

Just one quick sanity check...I've been eyeballing the Premier Acoustics subs PA-120 or PA-150.

I would ASSume that IF the PA subs were better or "worth it" you would have recommended those, so would you still recommend the RW-12D over the Premier subs?

Thanks again!
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Just one quick sanity check...I've been eyeballing the Premier Acoustics subs PA-120 or PA-150.

If looking at the PA-150, then you'd be better served buying a SVS, PB12-NSD.

For the price, the SVS, PB12-NSD digs deeper and with more authority.

In truth, I don't have a recommendation for the $500.00 price point. Not knocking any manufactures when I post. It's because nothing in that price point impresses me.

(Listen to him.) tongue.gif

In my opinion, in order to do your money proud and better what the RW-12d has to offer, one needs to go to the PB12-NSD. Based on your initial budget, at minimum, I'd go with a pair of RW-12d's and a DSPeaker, Anti-Mode, 8033S II to aid blending the pair of subs with your rooms acoustics. Yes, more than your initial budget but by financially extending yourself, you'll get smoother bass and an auto EQ system to help handle the wild ways of your rooms acoustics which are well known for killing the quality of a subwoofer's sound reproduction capability.

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Excellent, thanks everyone!
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What ever you go with, don't forget to stop by and let us know what you're impressions are with what ever it is you chose to buy.
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Absolutely!

I just picked up my receiver, surround speakers, and center channel last weekend. The differences from what I had (old HK Pro Logic AVR) to what I have now are immeasurable.
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Absolutely!
I just picked up my receiver, surround speakers, and center channel last weekend. The differences from what I had (old HK Pro Logic AVR) to what I have now are immeasurable.

It's either that or you have to buy a bass fishing boat. tongue.gif
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Well the decision was made for me. My mother-in-law just gave me the Klipsch RW-12D for Christmas. Sounds pretty good for the size/odd shape of the room. Seems to still have presence at low levels, and pretty clear and medium and high levels, I was expecting it to get a little muddy and it never did. Thanks for your help guys!
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Well the decision was made for me. My mother-in-law just gave me the Klipsch RW-12D for Christmas. Sounds pretty good for the size/odd shape of the room. Seems to still have presence at low levels, and pretty clear and medium and high levels, I was expecting it to get a little muddy and it never did. Thanks for your help guys!

Great sub. Congrats on your new toy. Wish I would have had a mother in law like that.

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