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post #1 of 19 Old 12-18-2012, 11:38 AM - Thread Starter
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Hi guys.
I'm able to buy the DWS 660ci for $300. How is this sub compared to the bic america F12, v1220, or Hsu STF-2. I know they vary in range with money, but i want the best bang for the bucks. I will be using the sub in my bed room so it's not a very big space. It will also be 80/20 (HT/music). Which one would produce the best sounds for movies with these selections. Any input is appreciated.
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Only having experience with the F12, and only reading up on the v1220, HSU STF-2, and DWS 660, I'd go with the HSU STF-2.

Simply because I hear it's a good quality sub at a reasonable price. The F12, while good for the price, simply leaves you wanting more after a while. I'd recommend it to anyone looking to spend under $200 or so, but if someone has the ability to buy the STF-2, then I would suggest giving it a shot.

But, you could add the Klipsch RW-12d to your list. Currently at $350 on newegg, and regularly getting down to $299, it's a great sub for the money.

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I agree on the F12. Great sub for the money but will leave you wanting more after a while. Happened to me.

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Hi guys.
I'm able to buy the DWS 660ci for $300.

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But, you could add the Klipsch RW-12d to your list. Currently at $350 on newegg, and regularly getting down to $299, it's a great sub for the money.


I have both the dswpro 660wi and the klipsch rw-12d, so my input may help you. dswpro is a little cleaner sounding, the klipsch is a little louder. i also have the psw505 from polk, which i would recommend over the dswpro for the price difference. i also got the dswpro for $300 and the $100 difference in price in not justifiable if you ask me. and from everything i read, the bic f12 is very similar to the psw505. haven't heard the others, so there's my input. cheers
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consider the BIC PL200, i got mine from acousticsounddesign for $279 shipped, considered to be a great bang for your buck sub

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The STF-2 is $372 shipped. If you can afford that and maybe just a bit more maybe look into the SVS PB-1000 or SB-1000 @ $499 shipped with unmatched customer service and warranty. I'm pretty sure that extra $127 dollars spent will go a long way in sound comparison.
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I owned both the F12 and the STF-2. I would get the STF-2 hands down. The bass is much cleaner on the Hsu, especially if you are pairing it up with bookshelf speakers (not sure what you are using for mains). The BIC became quite boomy when the crossover was set higher. Output was similar. You are using it in a bedroom so you really don't need a massive sub. IMO, the F12 is good for HT, paired up with tower speakers and a 80hz or lower crossover. I actually had dual F12s and I was happier with a single STF-2 in my room.

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I owned the F12 and the stf2 at the same time and in a small room. The F12 has more output. The stf2 is cleaner but not by any outrageous margin. If you are listening to mostly theater in a bedroom get the F12 and save the $175. The stf2 is definitely not worth nearly twice the price imo. I returned the stf2 and got a Klipsch RW12-d and it kills the stf2 but it cost me $110 in shipping to find that out ($43 to get it and $67 to ship it back). Both the F12 and stf2 will probably leave you wanting more inthe future but at least you wont be out an additional $175. Get the RW12 if you really want to spend that much.

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Thanks for all the great inputs guys. I have a pair of Sonus Faber concerto home and the Sonus Faber solo for center. It seems like the polk might be a keeper for the bedroom, but the STF-2 is really tempting as it's on sale for 329 right now. I got the Polk for 293 after tax and all. Since the DSW 660 is cleaner and more accurate than the Kipssch RW12 and the RW12 killed the STF-2. Would it be wise to return the Polk and go with the Hsu STF-2 then for about $50 more? The SVS is out of my range for now.
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Which Polk are you talking about? Amazon has the 505 for $190.

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if you already have the polk, try it out. if you're satisfied, there you go. if you desire more, return it and do more research. i'd say in a bedroom, the polk would be pretty sweet!
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I was talking about the dsw 660. I just got that open box from best buy for 293 (will have to pay $25 to polk for the remote that it's supposed to come with). It's sounding nice, but wondering if what would be better for the price.
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Keep the 660 until the rw12 goes on sale again for $299 and then take it back quickly. The rw is a much better sub. You won't have to worry about wireless interference and it has more than twice the watts. Ohh, and its brand new.

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I have it hard wired. I don't need the wireless function nor care for it. I was concerned with the port chuffing with the RW, but haven't auditioned it yet. A previous poster said the dsw 660 was cleaner than the RW, but the RW is louder. Can't I just turn up the volume to make it louder? It's got the power.
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I have it hard wired. I don't need the wireless function nor care for it. I was concerned with the port chuffing with the RW, but haven't auditioned it yet. A previous poster said the dsw 660 was cleaner than the RW, but the RW is louder. Can't I just turn up the volume to make it louder? It's got the power.

I just got the Polks after trying out the Klipsch. I would like to throw in that the Polk's finish on the cabinet is MUCH better than the Klipsch. Klipsch looked like Ikea furniture. At 17x 17x 17 they are fairly visible in a room and if you've a wife, she'll appreciate the Polk's looks better, IMO. As you said, yeah, you can turn up the volume. I personally didn't really turn up either sub past a 1/3 of their max volume so loudness is not an issue for me, rather clean sound and speed is more important, which seems to be the case for me with the Polks. YMMV.
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I just got the Polks after trying out the Klipsch. I would like to throw in that the Polk's finish on the cabinet is MUCH better than the Klipsch. Klipsch looked like Ikea furniture. At 17x 17x 17 they are fairly visible in a room and if you've a wife, she'll appreciate the Polk's looks better, IMO. As you said, yeah, you can turn up the volume. I personally didn't really turn up either sub past a 1/3 of their max volume so loudness is not an issue for me, rather clean sound and speed is more important, which seems to be the case for me with the Polks. YMMV.

I have had the DSW Pro 550wi for a couple of months now. I love it.
My subwoofer experiences are limited, but I love movies. I paid just a hair over $300 for it, and don't regret it one bit. I love the clean sound, the aesthetics and versatility of it. Really digs deep for movies. For the price, it's fantastic, being only the 10" version too.

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I have had the DSW Pro 550wi for a couple of months now. I love it.
My subwoofer experiences are limited, but I love movies. I paid just a hair over $300 for it, and don't regret it one bit. I love the clean sound, the aesthetics and versatility of it. Really digs deep for movies. For the price, it's fantastic, being only the 10" version too.

If you think polk subs dig deep try a ID brand...Im a polk fan at heart(my setup RTI-A7, CSI-A4, RTI-3) but there is better options in the sub department. I just ditched a pair of psw505's, which for the money were good, but they did not dig deep....just alot of output in the 30-50hz range.
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If you think polk subs dig deep try a ID brand...Im a polk fan at heart(my setup RTI-A7, CSI-A4, RTI-3) but there is better options in the sub department. I just ditched a pair of psw505's, which for the money were good, but they did not dig deep....just alot of output in the 30-50hz range.

ID brands such as what? Also, please keep in mind the price range. I'm sure a lot of Velodyne, HSU, SVS subs can outperform the Polks no problem... at a cost. I've tried the BIC F12, which was admittedly a bit cheaper but I did not like it (is it even ID? I got it off Amazon). Again, keeping the price paid in mind, ~$300, let me know what ID subs you would recommend.
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no id brands for that price. the polk is a decent sub, if your happy keep rockin it! smile.gif
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