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Hello everyone, my OCD is acting up and i can't seem to find a subwoofer with dimensions that would sit perfectly on the 15" x 15" SubDude platform. Any recommendations?
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Hello everyone, does anyone know which subwoofer would sit perfectly on the 15" x 15" SubDude platform without sticking out at all?

lol, a trick question?
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Question revised. lol.
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Question revised. lol.

As much as you want to use your subdude you really are going about the sub thing backassward. tongue.gif Besides I think you could overlap it no?
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Just got an SVS PC-12 NSD cylinder sub yesterday and it's about 16.5 inches wide. I have it sitting on my Subdude HD and it overlaps about 3/4 inch on all sides. Check out SVS cylinder subs.

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Just got an SVS PC-12 NSD cylinder sub yesterday and it's about 16.5 inches wide. I have it sitting on my Subdude HD and it overlaps about 3/4 inch on all sides. Check out SVS cylinder subs.


that wont work for him. He is looking for 15" by 15". If I were you I would go with the below Polk Audio Subwoofer. It is 15" wide by 15 1/2" deep smile.gif

http://www.polkaudio.com/products/dswpro550wi
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Hello everyone, my OCD is acting up and i can't seem to find a subwoofer with dimensions that would sit perfectly on the 15" x 15" SubDude platform. Any recommendations?
Buy the sub you need based on your low frequency extension and output needs, and if you must put something under it cut up one of these to the exact size required, it will work just as well:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Stansport-Pack-Lite-Camping-Pad/9856753?wmlspartner=je6NUbpObpQ&sourceid=12449803083994542705&t=1&affillinktype=10&veh=aff

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Hello everyone, my OCD is acting up and i can't seem to find a subwoofer with dimensions that would sit perfectly on the 15" x 15" SubDude platform. Any recommendations?
Yes. Get the best sub you can afford and if it doesn't fit then use the subdude as an exercise step.

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Buy the sub you need based on your low frequency extension and output needs, and if you must put something under it cut up one of these to the exact size required, it will work just as well:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Stansport-Pack-Lite-Camping-Pad/9856753?wmlspartner=je6NUbpObpQ&sourceid=12449803083994542705&t=1&affillinktype=10&veh=aff
You have stock in that stuff?wink.gif

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If I wanted to make a killing at the expense of the uninformed buying overpriced doo-dads that don't live up to their hype I'd buy Auralex stock, or even better, Audioquest. But being comfortably well off, and having the desire to be able to sleep at night, I prefer to give to the uninformed the information they need to become informed.
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I guess I was going about it the wrong way. How do I educate myself in what I actually need as far the subwoofer goes? I appreciate the replies and sorry for sounding like a total amateur but I guess have to learn somehow.
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I guess I was going about it the wrong way. How do I educate myself in what I actually need as far the subwoofer goes?
Ask the advice of those who design and manufacture them. I do the former, many who do the latter post here in the various owner support threads. I neither use nor recommend isolation devices any more complicated than a simple piece of carpet under a sub, as I've measured no difference between using them, or feet or spikes either, versus a carpeted floor.

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How about starting over? Do you have a sub now? If so, why do you want another? What is the size and general layout of your room. Do you listen to mostly music or theater? What is your budget?

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Ask the advice of those who design and manufacture them. I do the former, many who do the latter post here in the various owner support threads. I neither use nor recommend isolation devices any more complicated than a simple piece of carpet under a sub, as I've measured no difference between using them, or feet or spikes either, versus a carpeted floor.

I have a question for you if you don't mind Bill. When you are assigned to design a speaker does management come to you and say they want a speaker to meet certain specs and you have to do it for x amount of dollars? Do you get much freedom in the design? I would imagine there's much more to it than that.

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I have an 8" down firing Energy subwoofer (ESW-8HG). I want a 10" or 12" to "keep up" with my center and front speakers. My living room is about 14' x 14' x 8' ceiling. Strictly for theater. Budget is anything less than $900. I was originally going to get the Aperion Bravus II 12D and call it a day.
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Nice sub. I'm sure the more experienced will have lots to say. Is piano black gloss a requirement?

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I have a question for you if you don't mind Bill. When you are assigned to design a speaker does management come to you and say they want a speaker to meet certain specs and you have to do it for x amount of dollars? Do you get much freedom in the design? I would imagine there's much more to it than that.
In most cases these are the design goals of the manufacturer, in the order of importance:

1. Cost
2. Appearance and size
3. Performance

That should come as no surprise, as those are the same priorities most buyers have when shopping for a speaker.

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I may have misunderstood. Is that in context with your original post? Or with respect to frequency response, output and room mode smoothing? If the latter, there's no simple answer, other than buy the highest quality sub you can afford, and get at least two. With a $900 budget, for instance, two $450 subs will be better than one $900 sub. But don't go too cheap either. IME the least expensive powered sub worth owning is in the $250 range at regular pricing, so with a $300 budget don't get two $150 subs, get one $300 sub now and add another when you can afford to, unless you find some on closeout at half price.

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I have an 8" down firing Energy subwoofer (ESW-8HG). I want a 10" or 12" to "keep up" with my center and front speakers. My living room is about 14' x 14' x 8' ceiling. Strictly for theater. Budget is anything less than $900. I was originally going to get the Aperion Bravus II 12D and call it a day.

Slightly over budget; but I have and would recommend 2 - Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Pluses. If you wait for a sale like they just had in Dec. or buy B-Stock you can buy them for $499 each shipped to your house.
If you can only have one sub then something like the SVS PB12 NSD or HSU VTF-15H or Epik Empire.

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Slightly over budget; but I have and would recommend 2 - Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Pluses. If you wait for a sale like they just had in Dec. or buy B-Stock you can buy them for $499 each shipped to your house.
If you can only have one sub then something like the SVS PB12 NSD or HSU VTF-15H or Epik Empire.
What size is your room?

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I own a SVS NSD 12/2 and found two subdudes side by side fit perfectly with about 1" extra for the subdudes all the way around.
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Nice sub. I'm sure the more experienced will have lots to say. Is piano black gloss a requirement?

Piano black gloss is a must.
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Piano black gloss is a must.
That narrows it down quite a bit. I suggest you get the Aperion and call it a day. I have never heard of it but it seems like a quality sub and has more than enough output for that room.

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What size is your room?

Right now my room is a sealed basement living room 11' X 23' X 7.5'. We are having a new house built and the system will be in a first floor living room with a 4' opening from floor to ceiling (opens to rest of house) room is 15' X 20' X 8'

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I finally narrowed it down to these:

1. Aperion Bravus II 12D
2. SVS SB12-NSD

I still can't seem to pull the trigger on either of these. Due to my budget, I can only do one subwoofer for now. I have also taken into consideration my room layout which is a 14' x 14' x 8' (1,568cu/ft) that opens up into the dining room and hallway (open floor plan). Any thoughts on these?
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I would go for the Bravus, they have both been measured at data-bass.com and the Bravus measures much better.
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The headache continues, I scrapped the idea of using the Auralex pad and narrowed it down to these two ported subwoofers:

HSU VTF-2 MK4 (20.5"H x 15"W x 22"D/Rear facing ports) $592 shipped.

Outlaw LFM-1 Plus (21.5"H x 15"W x 22"D/Down firing ports) $620 shipped.

I narrowed it down to these two because the space where the subwoofer will be placed is limited to: 16"W x 24"D x 19"H. The subwoofer will go to the right of the television because I don't have much flexibility of placement when it comes to the depth and width as seen on the attached picture. There is no other spot for the subwoofer to go and will replace the Energy subwoofer pictured. I have also taken into consideration the way the ports are faced. Because the HSU will be pretty close to the back wall will the rear facing ports be a problem?
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If the subdude isn't big enough, get a gramma or a great gramma if you need an even bigger size. The grammas are the same thing as the subdude except that they use carpet on the wood platform as opposed to the nicer material of the subdude.

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If the subdude isn't big enough, get a gramma or a great gramma if you need an even bigger size.
Or one of these and cut it to size, it will work just as well.
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What I'd really be concerned about from what I see in that picture is the lack of rugs on the tile floors and placing the sub near the hallway, which almost guarantees a poor result.

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Outlaw LFM-1 Plus $549 shipped.

The LFM-1 Plus @ $549 does not include shipping. Shipping is currently $71.39, bringing the total to $620.39.
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