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Old 01-07-2013, 07:42 AM - Thread Starter
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Hi, I've been researching here on the forum which way to go. I have the Energy Take Classic 5pack and a Pioneer Vsx-821-k in my living room which is about 15' by 15'. Mostly watch blu rays and TV, don't really use this setup for music. I am eventually finishing part of the basement into a theater area which will be about 15 by 30. I currently have been using my old Yamaha YST-SW20 which is like 17 years old and is a 25 watt(!) 6 inch or so sub. I know basically anything will be an upgrade, but am trying to decide between these subs:
Polk PSW505
Dayton Sub1000
Bic V1220
Bic F12

They are all available on Amazon, which I have some credit in my account, for close to the same price, except the Dayton is cheaper. They are out of the Dayton Sub1200.

Which of these, if any, will pair up nicely with my set-up?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:30 AM
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I was debating this exact same thing, I am currently using an 10 year old Sony 60W 6.5" subwoofer and it's ok, but I wanted a better subwoofer and was looking at the EXACT same subs as you are. That is until I happened upon the Velodyne VX-11 two for $229 deal on Velodynes site. I started doing some research and found very little negative info on the VX-11's so I decided to pull the trigger and order them. They should be on their way in the next day or two and I am excited to get them and set them up and give them a listen...A friend of mine also has the bic f12 and I may barrow that for a day just to do a comparison. I also decided on the VX-11's because they are a little smaller in size and I can do dual subs for about the same price or a little more that one of the others.

One thing I had read somewhere on here I think was that the one or two peoples opinions were that the F12 didn't handle the upper range that well and since we have the Take Classics and need to set the crossover around 120 or so to be properly setup it might not be ideal...because they are small satellites we need to make sure the sub(s) we get can reproduce the upper end of their specs as well as the lower end so we don't miss out on anything.

I am wondering though what two dayton sub-1200's or Sub-1000's would be like in comparison to the VX-11's for about the same price point too.

I like the takes for what I paid for them...I picked them up for $124 shipped from woot.com a few weeks ago...much better deal than buying the box 5.1 set (which I almost did when amazon had it for $299) since you can get a much better subwoofer (or even duals) for about the same price as the 5.1 combo. Especially with only paying $124 for the satellites...

Anyway, those are just my thoughts so far on my experience with the exact same speaker setup and decisions and I hope it helps some.
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I really need to choose from the ones I listed because of the credit I have with Amazon. I don't think they have the Velodyne, at least I don't see it. Nevermind. I see it now. Guess I'll add that to my short list too...
I thought I read the same thing about the F12, but didn't remember where.
It looked like I was going to go with the V1220, but now Amazon is out, there are some available from other sellers through Amazon. I was leaning toward the V1220 because I have a little one who I suspect will want to touch the front of it. Rather him touch the port than the woofer!
Still want someone to convince me which way to go
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At the price the Velodyne is on Amazon I wouldn't consider it, you can get two of them for about the same price on Velodynes site...so you might want to scratch that off...I just figured I would give you another option...there are always other things to buy on Amazon with the credit wink.gif

I would also suggest to buy the Dayton from Part Express directly if you're interested in it, they charge more for shipping on Amazon vs their own site, I think it is $10 to ship it from Parts express where they want $30 to ship it if bought through amazon. Again, I know it's not on amazon but for these two scenarios Amazon is not the cheapest option this time around.

The Polk I was seriously debating, then crossed it off my list for reasons I can't remember after researching it. It does have tons of good reviews on amazon and decent specs, but people seem to crap on the polk psw series, I've never had one, so don't know why...I guess they are cheaper products.

Anyway, good luck in your search
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Thanks. I went with the V1220. We'll see how it goes when I get it!
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Please share your experience when it comes in. Mine (v1220) arrived and it's not producing very much sound. I wonder if it needs to break in?
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What is your volume set at? I have the v1220 for my upstairs system. And it's set at 5. And puts out a lot of bass for me. Whether its movie or music.
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What is your volume set at? I have the v1220 for my upstairs system. And it's set at 5. And puts out a lot of bass for me. Whether its movie or music.

Did it do that right out of the box? Mine is set at 7 and is disappointing right now.
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Did it do that right out of the box? Mine is set at 7 and is disappointing right now.
It did do the same. I don't know if you have this option. But when I had my hk avr 700 and 1700. I had set the sub to yes rather then plus. And I was barely getting any bass. And until I spoke with bic america customer support. They told me to switch to plus in my receiver sub setting. And It was producing a lot after making the switch to plus. Go through the receiver manual and see if you can find that sub setting.
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Got my V1220 yesterday from Amazon and hooked it up. Put on The Incredible Hulk blu ray as I know that one has a lot of bass. I had to turn the sub's volume up past the halfway point to really hear it.
Now I can't find the microphone that came with my Pioneer to re run the MCAAC. I know it's around somewhere...
In the meantime, the receiver's crossover setting is at 150 and the same for the sub. Does that sound right?
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Got my V1220 yesterday from Amazon and hooked it up. Put on The Incredible Hulk blu ray as I know that one has a lot of bass. I had to turn the sub's volume up past the halfway point to really hear it.
Now I can't find the microphone that came with my Pioneer to re run the MCAAC. I know it's around somewhere...
In the meantime, the receiver's crossover setting is at 150 and the same for the sub. Does that sound right?
No. Not really. What kind of speakers do you have?

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Energy Take Classic 5 Pack, as stated in original post. When I first ran MCAAC that's what the receiver set the crossover at.
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Then I'll let the Energy owners take over. 150 seems crazy high even for satellite speakers. Surely they can play down to 120 efficiently?

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I'd have to double check but I'm pretty sure the next lower crossover on the Pioneer after 150 is 100.
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Try 100 on the receiver and turn the crossover on the sub all the way up.

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Great will do that tonight. Thanks so much Bond
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yw Hope it helps.

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Got my V1220 yesterday from Amazon and hooked it up. Put on The Incredible Hulk blu ray as I know that one has a lot of bass. I had to turn the sub's volume up past the halfway point to really hear it.
Now I can't find the microphone that came with my Pioneer to re run the MCAAC. I know it's around somewhere...
In the meantime, the receiver's crossover setting is at 150 and the same for the sub. Does that sound right?
Set the receiver to 120 if possible 100 would work though
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Yeah I was right, receiver only allows 80, 100, 150 no 120 so I set it on 100. I'm going to have to play around and see what settings sound best.
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I have a set of the Energy take 5 Classics. The specifications on these speakest is that they go down to 115. I tried them at 110, 120 and 150. With the new sub that I just purchased (SVS SB12-NDS) I found that 120 works best with these speakers. My room is 12 x 12.

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Crutchfield has the Energy Take 5.0 speakers for $200

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-vI9jU9R8MCd/p_732TAKE50/Energy-Take-Classic-5-0.html


What would be the best subwoofer around $200 to pair with these speakers?
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Crutchfield has the Energy Take 5.0 speakers for $200

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-vI9jU9R8MCd/p_732TAKE50/Energy-Take-Classic-5-0.html


What would be the best subwoofer around $200 to pair with these speakers?

RW12-279 NewEgg

Bic PL200- 279 (skip this and go with the RW12 just listing your options around $200)

Polk PSW505- 180-200 on amazon price fluctuates search camelcamelcamel

Bic F12- $180-$200 on amazon and like the 505 price changes almost daily

These are popular options at your price range, the RW12 is currently most favored under $300 price range
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