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I am looking at purchasing 2 of the new svs ultra floorstanding speakers and I was planning on getting a rythmik fv15hp to go with it. But I am wondering if I would be better of with 2 pb12nsd's. I will be mainly be listening to electronic music like dubstep and electro. Will also be watching movies but I am far more interested in which setup will perform better for music played quite loud. Your help is much appreciated. I am also wondering if I get two subs will an emotiva XDA-2 USB DAC/Digital Preamp and a emotiva XPA-2 amplifier be sufficient to run with the two svs ultras?
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I am also wondering whether I would be better off getting a receiver seeing as I have just bought a 55inch sony bravia hx850 and a ps3 and sattelite tv and I want to connect it all together. Sorry if this does not make much sense, I am pretty ignorant when it comes to this stuff.
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How large is the room? Have you talked to SVS about pricing since you are buying speakers too? Curious what price you can get? I am inclined to say go with the dual SVS subs but would like to hear more about your room.
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The FV15HP will get a lot louder than two PB12s. I would definitely swing for the Rythmik.
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How large is the room? Have you talked to SVS about pricing since you are buying speakers too? Curious what price you can get? I am inclined to say go with the dual SVS subs but would like to hear more about your room.
I am in australia so cannot buy from svs direct. It's $2,200 for the pair of speakers and $1750 for the rythmik and the PB12-NSD are $999.99 each so pricing wise will be pretty similar.
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The FV15HP will get a lot louder than two PB12s. I would definitely swing for the Rythmik.

Yeah, this is a tough call since having dual subs offers much smoother response throughout the room. The Rythmik would play louder and deeper, but I am not sure it would sound better depending on the room.
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The FV15HP will get a lot louder than two PB12s. I would definitely swing for the Rythmik.
In that case maybe I will stick with the rythmik.
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I guess atleast with the rythmik I can still upgrade with another one when i have the funds. Any advice regarding my other questions?
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In that case maybe I will stick with the rythmik.

You can't go wrong either way. If you can add a second one down the road.....
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Yeah, this is a tough call since having dual subs offers much smoother response throughout the room. The Rythmik would play louder and deeper, but I am not sure it would sound better depending on the room.

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The room is roughly 15ft by 30 ft but it is not perfectly rectangle and it also opens up to the hallway and there is no door so it is a fairly open room. I will try upload pictures tonight.
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The room is roughly 15ft by 30 ft but it is not perfectly rectangle and it also opens up to the hallway and there is no door so it is a fairly open room. I will try upload pictures tonight.

Same size as my Theater and SVS recommended dual PB1000's for me.

I think the dual PB12 nds's would be perfect.

I actually might upgrade to those if I can save a little more $$$

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If you go to data-bass.com and compare both subs you would see that at 20hz you'd basically need two PB12-NSD to equal one FV15HP. At 16hz you'd almost need three to equal one FV15HP and above 30hz it would be the same.
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If you go to data-bass.com and compare both subs you would see that at 20hz you'd basically need two PB12-NSD to equal one FV15HP. At 16hz you'd almost need three to equal one FV15HP and above 30hz it would be the same.
http://www.data-bass.com/data?page=system&id=66&mset=71

You can compare the two for yourself and overlay the two graphs of each sub.

Do you think the Rythmik would provide as good room coverage as the two PB12's?

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Yes i do. Dual PB12-NSD might have a little bit smoother room frequency because of duals. But I think I would personally still go with a single FV15HP.

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Yes i do. Dual PB12-NSD might have a little bit smoother room frequency because of duals. But I think I would personally still go with a single FV15HP.

I guess I'm a symmetry freak. One sub looks off to me.

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Not to mention that dual PB12-NSD's still wouldn't have the same amount of output and would cost the OP $450 more from what he's saying.

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I am a huge symmetry freak also but once I put my FV15HP in place and listened/felt it, I knew that there is absolutely zero reason to add another to the room. This thing is a monster:eek:

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I definitely think I am going to stick with my original choice which is the rythmik
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Seeing how you're the Bass Gorilla, I think that would be the best choice ! biggrin.gif
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Seeing how you're the Bass Gorilla, I think that would be the best choice ! biggrin.gif
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That's a big room. You would be wise to consider a Seaton Submersive for a few hundred dollars more.

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HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Almost spit my gum out when I read that. FWIW....I second the Seaton advice above....although shipping that over there may put it well out of reach.
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Yeah i looked at the seaton but with the shipping it does raise the price significantly. How much better is the submersive than the rythmik, like will it blow it out of the water?
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I've owned dual Epik Empires in my 1800 cubic foot room and I prefer a single Submersive. Never owned the Rythmik but I'm pretty confident it's on another level. Mr. Mark Seaton is one of those few people in the world where anything less then perfection is inadequate. He just happens to design subs. smile.gif

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That's a big room. You would be wise to consider a Seaton Submersive for a few hundred dollars more.

Wha?? The cheapest SubMersive is $2,195 + shipping, where as the FV15HP is $1,274 + shipping. That's more than a few hundred dollars.. it's over $900 cool.gif

My pick would be the Rythmik. Awesome sub for the price. I just picked up an E15. If I hated how fat my wallet is, I would opt for the SubMersive. tongue.gif
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I agree

FV15HP is recommended.
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If you go to data-bass.com and compare both subs you would see that at 20hz you'd basically need two PB12-NSD to equal one FV15HP. At 16hz you'd almost need three to equal one FV15HP and above 30hz it would be the same.
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I definitely think I am going to stick with my original choice which is the rythmik
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Wha?? The cheapest SubMersive is $2,195 + shipping, where as the FV15HP is $1,274 + shipping. That's more than a few hundred dollars.. it's over $900 cool.gif

My pick would be the Rythmik. Awesome sub for the price. I just picked up an E15. If I hated how fat my wallet is, I would opt for the SubMersive. tongue.gif

Im australia the rythmik is $1750
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Im australia the rythmik is $1750

Ouch. Not cheap to send a 140 lb. box to down under.

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