Originally Posted by likemovies
After a while though, I stopped liking my S12. It was great, shook the house, could hear it 20feet+ outside my house but it didn't seem "accurate." I don't really know how to explain it. Maybe that's what you all mean by "punch." LIke if someone gets punched, I expect a strong punch, feeling and sound, not a long boooom.
Much of what you're experiencing, or what it is you're lacking can be tied to a subwoofer system that's not properly integrated into your room's acoustics. Before doing any upgrades, if your subs are in good working order, my first suggestion would be to make sure your subs are properly integrated and tested for; dial dem puppies in.
In my opinion, an upgrade path should include a bench period where the individual takes the time to get the best out of what they have so when they have better, they'll be able to get the best out of what they upgrade to. If one doesn't take the time to educate themselves as to the integration of their subs into the room's acoustics, the same conditions that plagued their lesser subs, will plague their much more capable replacement subs.
My subwoofer sonic upgrade path below:
Currently, I'm waiting on the arrival of replacement drivers and passive radiators to upgrade our currents pair of 12" subwoofers. I'll use the same box and amplifier. It's not ideal but makes for a good home based, lab experience.
Prior to the above, I picked up a DSPeaker, Anti-Mode, 8033S II and some room measuring gear, downloaded and learned how to use a copy of REW to do room frequency sweeps with.
From here, once the replacement drivers/radiators have about fifty hours of play time on them to loosen them up, I'll dial the system in, play with a pseudo sound panel (love seat cushion being held and moved about the room) to see the cause and affect/benefit, all in the name of educating me to our personal acoustical space. After all other financial commitments are met, then and only then will I upgrade the subwoofer system as I'll be better prepared to try and get the best out of the replacement subs. In my opinion, at the least, it's all about properly integrating a pair of subwoofers into the acoustical listening environment. Sans doing this, for the most part, one is wishing-and-a-hoping.
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