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I ran audessey and I had to put the volume on my pb 13 ultra at -20 to get it to - 4 1/2 the bass sounds a lot cleaner but much lower
Like I said I ended up raising the sub level +4 on the receiver and left the gain alone on the sub. Then you always know where audyssey put it at.

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Using a dynamo 700 with my Electromotion ESLs, C2, and 4 Fx2s for surrounds and rears. The high frequencies are great. Bass and depth are just not where I want it. I'm not looking for loud, but full, crisp, tight bass that will completely fill in the bottom end of either movies or music. I've read lots about the SB-13. Thoughts? Experiences with Electrostatic set-up??
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Using a dynamo 700 with my Electromotion ESLs, C2, and 4 Fx2s for surrounds and rears. The high frequencies are great. Bass and depth are just not where I want it. I'm not looking for loud, but full, crisp, tight bass that will completely fill in the bottom end of either movies or music. I've read lots about the SB-13. Thoughts? Experiences with Electrostatic set-up??
No experience with electrostatic but I can assure you that the SB13 Ultra will bring your system up another level. Its extremely fast, accurate and detailed. I'm going to hopefully buy another one this year if funds are in order.

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I have the same exact system. I ended up getting a psa xs30, it sounds great with my system, so the Sb13 ultra should too.
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Have an ultra on the way. Should be here in 4 days. I'm hoping the system will step up a notch. Here's a question. Should I use the Dynamo 700 as a second sub along with the ultra or let the ultra do all the work?? I'm going to experiment both ways, but what do others think?
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Have an ultra on the way. Should be here in 4 days. I'm hoping the system will step up a notch. Here's a question. Should I use the Dynamo 700 as a second sub along with the ultra or let the ultra do all the work?? I'm going to experiment both ways, but what do others think?
Personally I think you will like the Ultra by itself but ya never know. The Dynamo is only a 10 inch driver 600 watt amp although it is sealed so they might work. Problem is the Dynamo is gonna run out of gas way before the Ultra which might cause issues at extreme playback levels.

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I took delivery of my SVS SB13 Ultra last week. Never owned an SVS product before, but felt i had nothing to lose as they have an attractive no-risk demo offer.

initial thoughts...

The finish and build of this sub is quality,weight is impressive. With the grill off, it's one of the most attractive subwoofers i've seen in a loooong time. the piano gloss is very classy. With that said, the protective grill is horrendous. I will say functionally, the grill is class leading as it would probably stop a bowling ball, but hands down easily on of the most obtrusive grills i've seen.

the performance seems "as adversited" or maybe even a bit better. So far i'm a believer, but i need more time to give an honest, conclusive review. Very impressed with how this sub sounds with music specifically METAL! and it's aggressive drums & double bass pedals. One of my go-to double-bass pedal drum tracks is by AS I LAY DYING, entitled "Upside Down Kingdom" and the SB-13 Ultra ate the track up and spit it out at reference quality. Excited to get to know this ins and out of this subwoofer.
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^^Congratulations on your new Ultra. I know you will be one happy camper. Its capability with music is indeed outstanding.

On a side note, I really like the grill. I think it's unique in this world of standard cloth grills and I find that it makes a statement (it's all subjective).
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I took delivery of my SVS SB13 Ultra last week. Never owned an SVS product before, but felt i had nothing to lose as they have an attractive no-risk demo offer.

initial thoughts...

The finish and build of this sub is quality,weight is impressive. With the grill off, it's one of the most attractive subwoofers i've seen in a loooong time. the piano gloss is very classy. With that said, the protective grill is horrendous. I will say functionally, the grill is class leading as it would probably stop a bowling ball, but hands down easily on of the most obtrusive grills i've seen.

the performance seems "as adversited" or maybe even a bit better. So far i'm a believer, but i need more time to give an honest, conclusive review. Very impressed with how this sub sounds with music specifically METAL! and it's aggressive drums & double bass pedals. One of my go-to double-bass pedal drum tracks is by AS I LAY DYING, entitled "Upside Down Kingdom" and the SB-13 Ultra ate the track up and spit it out at reference quality. Excited to get to know this ins and out of this subwoofer.

I've learned to love the grill. I think the SB-13 Ultra looks great with my B&W Diamond gloss black speakers and it sounds great with music and movies.

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Before I received my SB13 Ultra I had contemplated covering the grille with black cloth. After I received the subwoofer I found that I didn't mind the metal grille enough to try. Now, I actually really like the looks of the grille and fact that it protects the sub while still showing off the driver.
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So does this sub shake and rubble rooms? I love the look of this sub and the size but does this sub throw down for movies? I'm also thinking of the PB12+ but really like the size and look of the SB13... Like really love its look.

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Ditto on the grille it's pretty robust, not more torn fabric, although a lip on the top would be good to protect anything falling onto the surround.

As for rubbling rooms.. no it won't shake your room to rubble no sub would.

I think it loses about maximum 10dB output compared to the PC/PB Ultra 13 models, so if you have a large room I'd go for the ported models. Unless you get two SB Ultra's but that works out expensive. I'm using it in a 3.5 x 3m room so plenty..in fact over kill but I tried a 12" sealed box and didn't think much of it for movies, need more oomph and attack

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Before I received my SB13 Ultra I had contemplated covering the grille with black cloth. After I received the subwoofer I found that I didn't mind the metal grille enough to try. Now, I actually really like the looks of the grille and fact that it protects the sub while still showing off the driver.

I like how you can peer over the top edge and see the massive excursion of the sub without removing the grille.

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I took delivery of my SVS SB13 Ultra last week. Never owned an SVS product before, but felt i had nothing to lose as they have an attractive no-risk demo offer.

initial thoughts...

The finish and build of this sub is quality,weight is impressive. With the grill off, it's one of the most attractive subwoofers i've seen in a loooong time. the piano gloss is very classy. With that said, the protective grill is horrendous. I will say functionally, the grill is class leading as it would probably stop a bowling ball, but hands down easily on of the most obtrusive grills i've seen.

the performance seems "as adversited" or maybe even a bit better. So far i'm a believer, but i need more time to give an honest, conclusive review. Very impressed with how this sub sounds with music specifically METAL! and it's aggressive drums & double bass pedals. One of my go-to double-bass pedal drum tracks is by AS I LAY DYING, entitled "Upside Down Kingdom" and the SB-13 Ultra ate the track up and spit it out at reference quality. Excited to get to know this ins and out of this subwoofer.

Hey Eddie.. I just happened by and noticed your Avatar. smile.gif Anyway I thought I would congratulate you on your new purchase and hope it does the job for yuh!

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Warpdrive, I totally agree. Instead of always removing the grille you can just take a peek .
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the best part about getting a new piece of equipment is playing all your favorite older songs from 20-30 years ago and hearing how the new piece reproduces the track.
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Just sold my JL audio F113...Have SB13-Ultra...What should i expect fro SB13?
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I'm interested in how you think the SB-13U compares to the F113. I'm thrilled with the level of performance of the SVS, but it's definitely the best subwoofer I've ever owned.
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I had dual F113s and now am the proud owner of dual SB13Us.

They are very similar, but I think the SB13U slightly outedges it.
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Really? That is impressive. I don't even think SVS themselves claimed that kind of performance when they were in this forum talking about the comparison with th F113 as they are in completely different price categories.
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The JL has morse output I think. Sound quality is up for debate.

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Just set up the new ultra. It chewed up and spit out my dynamo 700. The entire system is at a whole new level. Clear, clean, tight bass. Need to figure out how to optimize the settings now. Anyone have a quick guide??
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Just set up the new ultra. It chewed up and spit out my dynamo 700. The entire system is at a whole new level. Clear, clean, tight bass. Need to figure out how to optimize the settings now. Anyone have a quick guide??
I told you it would eat that 700 up without burping afterwards biggrin.gif I have a Denon 3312 with Audyssey XT. I disable everything on the Ultra and let Audyssey do its thing. I ended up with -4 on Denon. My volume on the Ultra is -17. I ended up raising sub trim +4 on the Denon so actually now its running 4db's hot to my liking.

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When I plugged it in and turned it in, the volume was automatically at 0db. I assumed it was off or something so I turned the dial and it only went one way, all the way to -100db. Why was it like that, does this mean the volume is at peak? I adjusted the output on the onkyo to -9. Just wanted to listen for a few hours. Going to run audyssey soon
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When I plugged it in and turned it in, the volume was automatically at 0db. I assumed it was off or something so I turned the dial and it only went one way, all the way to -100db. Why was it like that, does this mean the volume is at peak? I adjusted the output on the onkyo to -9. Just wanted to listen for a few hours. Going to run audyssey soon
0 db is max volume. I think SVS said to try between -10 and -20 for starters. Sub volume ended up at -17 after running Audyssey. Try to keep between -5 to 0 on your AVR after running Audyssey. Then ofc you have some lee way to turn it up if you want.

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Any recommended level before running audyssey? Or just leave it at 0. It seems most comments on the web suggest 1/4 or 1/3 volume which would mean -75 or -66!! Seems low.
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Any recommended level before running audyssey? Or just leave it at 0. It seems most comments on the web suggest 1/4 or 1/3 volume which would mean -75 or -66!! Seems low.
Try -15

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Inset the sub volume at -20. I was measured with the audyssey on the receiver. As soon as I start the program it begins by asking to adjust the sub volume to 75db, so I adjusted the volume which ended up being -20. That's all good. After I run the program, it shows all the results for levels and distances. It set the crossovers at 40Hz for the fronts, 50 for the centre and 60 for the rears and surrounds. Wouldn't it be better to keep those upwards to the 80hz range to get more of the bass sent to the sub? I'm just wondering why audyssey is selecting such low levels from the speakers.
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Inset the sub volume at -20. I was measured with the audyssey on the receiver. As soon as I start the program it begins by asking to adjust the sub volume to 75db, so I adjusted the volume which ended up being -20. That's all good. After I run the program, it shows all the results for levels and distances. It set the crossovers at 40Hz for the fronts, 50 for the centre and 60 for the rears and surrounds. Wouldn't it be better to keep those upwards to the 80hz range to get more of the bass sent to the sub? I'm just wondering why audyssey is selecting such low levels from the speakers.
Thats common for most AVR's to do that. What kind of speakers and AVR do you have? Set your XO at 80hz for all speakers and set the LFE in the AVR to 120hz.

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I don't set subwoofer to 120hz, I set it to 70hz. With all the other speakers set to 70hz. I don't like the subwoofer playing that high frequency (upto 120hz)

I guess that means bass from the LFE channel higher than 70hz gets re-directed to other channels?

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