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Room is 40'x16'x7' basement rec room which is now ht. LP is 14' from one end. Pc12 plus is about 5' from the LP and despite this not as much sound as I like despite increasing the gain.

My question is replace with a paradigm sub1 or add another pc12 plus?
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Room is 40'x16'x7' basement rec room which is now ht. LP is 14' from one end. Pc12 plus is about 5' from the LP and despite this not as much sound as I like despite increasing the gain.

My question is replace with a paradigm sub1 or add another pc12 plus?

How old is the PC12+. If you are looking for more, duals will help, but if you are a bass head you made need to look into the big boys (JTR Captivator, Seaton Submerssive).

You should also try and measure the response in your room. What types of floors do you have (carpet, hardwood)?
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Sub is 10days old. Floors are carpet. How do I measure the response in the room?
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purchased a seaton subM F2. This has solved my problem. What a monster. Couldnt be happier.
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You got an F2 in just 3 days? Impressive...

If you take yourself too seriously expect me to do the exact opposite
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Room is 40'x16'x7' basement rec room which is now ht. LP is 14' from one end. Pc12 plus is about 5' from the LP and despite this not as much sound as I like despite increasing the gain.

My question is replace with a paradigm sub1 or add another pc12 plus?
That's a large space. You'll need at least 2 PC12-Plus for that.
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That's a large space. You'll need at least 2 PC12-Plus for that.

In addition to the Seaton Submersive F2 he already bought??

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In addition to the Seaton Submersive F2 he already bought??
No. It's either 2 SVS or 1 SubM. 2 SubM will be merrier. tongue.gif
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purchased a seaton subM F2. This has solved my problem. What a monster. Couldnt be happier.
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No. It's either 2 SVS or 1 SubM. 2 SubM will be merrier. tongue.gif

Correct. My point was he already chose the latter, so it appears to be a done deal already.

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purchased a seaton subM F2. This has solved my problem. What a monster. Couldnt be happier.

Great to hear things worked out and the room acoustics weren't insurmountable.
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You got an F2 in just 3 days? Impressive...

A finish that's in stock combined with living within a 1 day shipping window from Chicago = unpacking a shiny new subwoofer in 2 days. smile.gif

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Havent tried this yet, but what is everyone (or anyones) thoughts on using the PC12 AND the subM? the pc12 would have to be placed diagnoally across the listening area and basically 5-7ft to the left of where I sit. the subM is in the front right corner. Do I need to do any tuning to the PC12?
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Sometimes it works, sometimes the ported and sealed subs will fight around the tuning frequency. You can probably use the quickmeasure feature in ARC to save a lot of guessing or head scratching. The ultimate question will be to determine if you can find a complimentary location for the sub which allows it to help while not pushing it to its limits.

You can try different tunings to see how they interact with the response of the SubMersive F2, where sealed might end up be easiest to integrate. Either way you can also experiment with setting the room gain compensation to a smaller room setting (more gain) which will reduce the low frequency workload for the same playback level.

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DO you think plugging the ports on the pc12 will make it an easier to integrate?
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DO you think plugging the ports on the pc12 will make it an easier to integrate?

It's a total crap shoot. Every room is different. Every sub placed in a different spot within a room is different. I suggest trial and error until you find the best setup to your liking.

What I like best with my setups, many posters would say is completely wrong. But in the end, what I think is best is what's best.
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