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I need advice on what I should get for my HT. I have $1200 to spend on subs. Should I get one for $1200 or two for $1200? If I get two, I would get a new receiver. Or get one and use my existed receiver
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I need advice on what I should get for my HT. I have $1200 to spend on subs. Should I get one for $1200 or two for $1200? If I get two, I would get a new receiver. Or get one and use my existed receiver

FYI, using a AVR's subwoofer preout and a "Y" splitter, allows one to use two or more subwoofers. That said, due to room smoothing and colocation room gain issues, two subs is definitely preferred to one sub.

With a $1,200.00 budget, the first thing one realistically needs to know is how do you plan to take advantage of your subwoofer sound system?

Is it a small room where the sub will be next to your main listening position or a large room open to dining area, kitchen and entryway with twenty foot tall ceilings?
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My HT is 17ft long and 14ft wide. Just going to put it next to my projector screen. Also, good to know that I don't need to upgrade my receiver to a 7.2 receiver. I have a 7.1
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I need advice on what I should get for my HT. I have $1200 to spend on subs. Should I get one for $1200 or two for $1200?
Two. You can't smooth room modes with one.
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I thought I needed a 7.2 receiver for dual subs, but the OP told me I didn't need it
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I thought I needed a 7.2 receiver for dual subs, but the OP told me I didn't need it

Just get a Y splitter as mentioned. As long as you have two powered subs, you'll be fine splitting up that one sub output.

I say get two good subs....ie. 2 svs pb-1000's or 2 svs sb-1000's at $500 each. Another option is to get a couple of those Klipsch subs from NewEgg for $600-$700 total...check the front page somewhere for the thread. Yet another option would be 2 Hsu VTF2 MK4's for a total of about $1,200. Lastly, Rythmik recently released a new 12" sub the LV12R...total $1,100.

Take your pick but only after doing a little research.
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Just get a Y splitter as mentioned. As long as you have two powered subs, you'll be fine splitting up that one sub output.

I say get two good subs....ie. 2 svs pb-1000's or 2 svs sb-1000's at $500 each. Another option is to get a couple of those Klipsch subs from NewEgg for $600-$700 total...check the front page somewhere for the thread. Yet another option would be 2 Hsu VTF2 MK4's for a total of about $1,200. Lastly, Rythmik recently released a new 12" sub the LV12R...total $1,100.

Take your pick but only after doing a little research.

Prime, would you really take say two SB-1000's over lets say a single PSA XS30. Or two LV12R's over a single FV15HP?
I know two subs will always help out with room modes and frequency response, but it's not like a single XS30 or FV15HP would sound terrible and both those subs should have double the output of the lesser priced subs.

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Prime, would you really take say two SB-1000's over lets say a single PSA XS30. Or two LV12R's over a single FV15HP?
I know two subs will always help out with room modes and frequency response, but it's not like a single XS30 or FV15HP would sound terrible and both those subs should have double the output of the lesser priced subs.

Gotta say I'd rather get two subs. In my room when I got one really nice sub instead of two lower ends I was really annoyed by being able to localize it lol. At $1200, the OP could probably get two VTF2s

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Prime, would you really take say two SB-1000's over lets say a single PSA XS30. Or two LV12R's over a single FV15HP?
I know two subs will always help out with room modes and frequency response, but it's not like a single XS30 or FV15HP would sound terrible and both those subs should have double the output of the lesser priced subs.

Honestly, I do think the two subs in your examples would be better overall but from my personal experience 2 subs are better than one. I purchased a 15H and it was plenty for the room I put it in but the situation just didn't seem right...meaning 1 sub wasn't sitting rright with me. I was sensing something missing. That missing feeling disappeared when I setup the second 15H in that room.

I agree with what you are saying but I believe 2 lesser subs are going to be better overall than 1 very good sub in almost any application. His budget of 1,200 would not get him 2 very good subs but it would get him 2 good ones.

I think my 2 15H's for $2k serve me better than if I had purchased 1 SvS PB13 Ultra for that same 2K.

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I don't really think your example of two 15H's to one PB Ultra is a good example. Mostly because the 15H is a hell of a sub, I wouldn't take a single PB Ultra over a single FV15HP because its not even close to worth the price difference. I wouldn't be surprised if you needed almost three SB-1000's to equal the output of a single XS30.
I would also think Brian at Rythmik would agree that two LV12R's wouldn't equal a single FV15HP.

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I don't really think your example of two 15H's to one PB Ultra is a good example. Mostly because the 15H is a hell of a sub, I wouldn't take a single PB Ultra over a single FV15HP because its not even close to worth the price difference. I would be surprised if you needed almost three SB-1000's to equal the output of a single XS30.

Here's the deal. If I owned an XS-30, XV-30, FV15HP, or PB13 Ultra, I would want another. Those are huge budgets though. The OP's budget was the real constraint. If he had said 2k, then it's 2 15H's all the way. If he had said 1k, I would not say buy 1 15H eventhough I own 2 of them.

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No I get what you're saying. But with his budget of $1200 he could defiantly get a XS30 and for about $100 more he could have a FV15HP. And I would have to think a single 15H would sound better then two PB-1000s.

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No I get what you're saying. But with his budget of $1200 he could defiantly get a XS30 and for about $100 more he could have a FV15HP. And I would have to think a single 15H would sound better then two PB-1000s.

I agree but there is always give and take. I would not personally want a single sub in my home theater. I know many here do it but it's not for me.

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Yeah that's a good point and I would also agree, I wouldn't want a single sub either. But I'd still rather have a higher quality single sub and then maybe down the road a year or two buy a second one instead of getting two lesser subs and having to get rid of two subs to upgrade down the road.

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Yeah that's a good point and I would also agree, I wouldn't want a single sub either. But I'd still rather have a higher quality single sub and then maybe down the road a year or two buy a second one instead of getting two lesser subs and having to get rid of two subs to upgrade down the road.

You definitely have a point but I get the feeling that it's really only the few of us here who constantly upgrade. Sane people buy HT equipment and live with it...lol.

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If you're budget is a firm $1,200, I would wait until outlaw puts the lfm-1 ex on sale for $599 with free shipping and get 2 of them. Assuming they do go on sale again. You won't do better for the price. It can play as low and loud as much more expensive subs.

If you can up your budget to $1,500 or so, I would get 2 psa xv-15's.
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Yeah that's a good point and I would also agree, I wouldn't want a single sub either. But I'd still rather have a higher quality single sub and then maybe down the road a year or two buy a second one instead of getting two lesser subs and having to get rid of two subs to upgrade down the road.
Quality and price are not the same thing. The main difference between a $600 sub and a $1200 sub isn't how good they sound, but how loud they'll go. And, due to the law of diminishing returns, that $1200 sub probably won't go as loud as two $600 subs.

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I just picked up a 2nd Klipsch RW-12D from NE. Is there a minimum distance required from each sub. Right now I have set next to each front speaker. They are approx 4-5 feet apart.
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"The LV12R doesn't have a direct servo driver ...[

Where you get that from? All Rythmik models has the Direct Servo.
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Oh really, my bad I thought I read somewhere Brian saying it didn't which was one of the reasons for the lower price point. If it does have a direct servo please ignore my post.

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Quality and price are not the same thing. The main difference between a $600 sub and a $1200 sub isn't how good they sound, but how loud they'll go. And, due to the law of diminishing returns, that $1200 sub probably won't go as loud as two $600 subs.

Bill, wouldn't being able to play louder with less distortion directly effect the sound quality?

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Bill, wouldn't being able to play louder with less distortion directly effect the sound quality?
Yes, and where that's concerned two drivers versus one usually will have less distortion, assuming the drivers are the same diameter. Distortion rises with excursion, so two drivers running at 10mm excursion, for instance, will usually have less distortion than one driver running at 20mm excursion, while the total output would be the same.

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Yes, and where that's concerned two drivers versus one usually will have less distortion, assuming the drivers are the same diameter. Distortion rises with excursion, so two drivers running at 10mm excursion, for instance, will usually have less distortion than one driver running at 20mm excursion, while the total output would be the same.

Which is a great point, so the LV12R uses a 12" driver and the FV15HP a 15", so in your opinion would having two LV12R's playing a referrence have more or less distortion then a single FV15HP playing at the same level?

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You definitely have a point but I get the feeling that it's really only the few of us here who constantly upgrade. Sane people buy HT equipment and live with it...lol.

Insanity is a matter of perspective. Those who don't upgrade are the insane people biggrin.gif

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Which is a great point, so the LV12R uses a 12" driver and the FV15HP a 15", so in your opinion would having two LV12R's playing a referrence have more or less distortion then a single FV15HP playing at the same level?

To find that out, you'd need something like the CEA2010 measurements that Data-Bass runs on each sub. For instance, here's the chart for the FV15HP with one port open. Unfortunately, I don't think there's any public test data like that for the LVR12R. Best bet is to ask Brian Ding at Rythmik. Since he designed the subs, he'll know the answer.

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Which is a great point, so the LV12R uses a 12" driver and the FV15HP a 15", so in your opinion would having two LV12R's playing a referrence have more or less distortion then a single FV15HP playing at the same level?
Insufficient data to be sure. But as two average twelves have a larger cone area than one average fifteen it's a safe assumption that the twelves would be running with less excursion to reach the same output, so they may have lower THD.

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Hmmm it would be interesting to hear what Brian from Rythmik would have to say about comparing output and sound quality of two LV12R's verse a single FV15HP. I'll have do some reading in the Rythmik thread to see if someones already asked this.

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Yeah that's a good point and I would also agree, I wouldn't want a single sub either. But I'd still rather have a higher quality single sub and then maybe down the road a year or two buy a second one instead of getting two lesser subs and having to get rid of two subs to upgrade down the road.
Quality and price are not the same thing. The main difference between a $600 sub and a $1200 sub isn't how good they sound, but how loud they'll go. And, due to the law of diminishing returns, that $1200 sub probably won't go as loud as two $600 subs.

One other difference between a 600 and a 1200 dollar sub is the depth it will go, say 15hz vs 25hz etc., that's another factor in considering subs.
There is a lot to be said for multiples but if they don't go where you want it then I wouldn't want duals of a lesser capability.
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