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post #31 of 40 Old 03-22-2013, 09:56 AM
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How does someone buy a DTS-10?

When I google for it, all I get are mentions about a kit that apparently is only for sale every now and then.
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There are two used ones located in the AVS classifieds. Already built. Shipping will cost $300 or so and then an amp is needed, another $300. They are really good subs though and the downside is size and limited placement options even if you could fit it. The best options would be to use them as risers or seats or stage in the front.
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To get back on track, If the OP can fit the DTS10 or not care about looks it is the sub he should get because it has the highest performance for the price. The Cap used would be next. If they are too big then I would look into the FV15HP. There are two SVS 16-46CS+ subs for sale that are nice as well.

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DTS10 I'd need an art major's help to fit it into my decor... and barring that perhaps a JTR if I find one in a timely manner.

However, for the ones immediately available, if it came down to
Craigsub 18.2 w/ MQ600 amp for its two 18" drivers
F25 with the new 800W amp

You'd recommend the F25? (I'm guessing your FV15HP recommendation could also be an F25 endorsement? Since Rythmik's site lists the F25 is only 1dB lower than the FV15HP @ 20Hz, and any frequencies below that I'm assuming the sealed F25 is going to have higher output)
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Well I have not heard the F25 bu the 18.2 would get my vote. Dual 18's vs dual 15's. The 18.2 likes 1600 watts per sub. It has bigger drivers an more power capability. The F-25 is more user friendly with built in EQ and limiters for any mistakes. I do my own tweaking so I like the raw passive subs and create my own EQ for my room.
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If they were dual LMSR's it would be a different story. I would take the CHT over the Submersive for the money.
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Thanks for the input, the reasoning does seem to make sense.

I did get around to looking at the F15HP's (apparently should be a good representative of F25) freq response, and it looks like -10dB at the most going from 20Hz to 10Hz? And if F25 is only off by -1dB at 20Hz from FV15HP which would make it about 107dB @ 20 Hz according to Data-bass, would that make it 97dB @ 10Hz, ish~?
http://www.rythmikaudio.com/F15HP_specs.html

And then if we compare that to the 94.4dB @ 10Hz Ricci got for the 18.2... would that mean F25 beats 18.2? Sorry, I know it's a ton of extrapolating and assumptions.

Just wanted to make sure I reconciled all the data I found before I make a decision.
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The F25 is looking very solid to me, and I think the price is great for what it is. I have always been pleased with the performance, build quality and customer service of my Rythmiks (2FV15HPs). Someone said it was 1800 originally, so 1399 intro now and 1499 later is a heck of a deal IMO for a commercial sub. Of course if you have the DIY skills you can do better, but that's not me at the moment. I know the DTS10 is a beast but unless you have a dedicated room you can basically build those things into its tough. I'm voting F25, but you are going to have a top performer either way. The caps are beastly as well.

I'm also not a fan of a company getting political like that, it's unprofessional. Nothing wrong with backing a candidate and making donations, but that was just weird going negative like that. Many folks are way too polarized right now when the two sides agree on 90% of the issues. Treating the other guys as the devil isn't working for either side IMO. I for one am sick of it.
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Thanks for the input, the reasoning does seem to make sense.

I did get around to looking at the F15HP's (apparently should be a good representative of F25) freq response, and it looks like -10dB at the most going from 20Hz to 10Hz? And if F25 is only off by -1dB at 20Hz from FV15HP which would make it about 107dB @ 20 Hz according to Data-bass, would that make it 97dB @ 10Hz, ish~?
http://www.rythmikaudio.com/F15HP_specs.html

And then if we compare that to the 94.4dB @ 10Hz Ricci got for the 18.2... would that mean F25 beats 18.2? Sorry, I know it's a ton of extrapolating and assumptions.

Just wanted to make sure I reconciled all the data I found before I make a decision.

No, it does not work that way. I don't think Ricci tested the 18.2 and a ported sub under tune that low(10hz) would be all THD and why the FV15HP did not have a 10hz number, can't keep THD low enough to pass. I also doubt that either sub will have more 10 hz output than the LMS5400 which is a monster 18.
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How does one act when something happens to make you change something drastically? I am sure we all have our moments and to call people absurd or whatever acts like you never had a bad moment before. People are not perfect and things happen. He had to shut down because he would not be able to sell the stuff at the prices he wanted to, he would have to increase the price which he did not want to do. Luckily, he found someone to help out and keep things going. He just happened to let everyone know about how he felt about it. People don't have to agree but we also should not judge, we are not perfect.

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Exactly we all have our moments. Craig has been nothing but kind to me and was great to do business with.

Anyway my vote is for the DTS-10 if you can find a place for it.

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Thanks.

DTS10 I'd need an art major's help to fit it into my decor... and barring that perhaps a JTR if I find one in a timely manner.

However, for the ones immediately available, if it came down to
Craigsub 18.2 w/ MQ600 amp for its two 18" drivers
F25 with the new 800W amp

You'd recommend the F25? (I'm guessing your FV15HP recommendation could also be an F25 endorsement? Since Rythmik's site lists the F25 is only 1dB lower than the FV15HP @ 20Hz, and any frequencies below that I'm assuming the sealed F25 is going to have higher output)

K just seen u said the DTS-10 won't fit. Id say either of those choices will suit you well. I'd choose the Chase setup myself.

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