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I have a budget in the $1500 area and have narrowed it down to 2 subs rhythmik fv15hp and hsu vtf-15h unless there is a better sub I am missing her is a rundown of what im trying to accomplish



1. Im not happy with my bass right now especially with stereo music.

2. Listening position s 15' from sub which is in a corner now.

3. Total room size is 15x15 alcove within a 30x40 carpeted finished basement

4. Im 70% movies 30% music but both are equally important. I would consider seperate subs for each 1 for each source even if meant a little more $$ if this got me the best results

5. I listen loud reference for movies, sometimes higher for music. Music tastes all over the board. classic rock,blues,jazz,classical occasional hip hop/r&b

6. When im in the mood i want the bass to make a real statement


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The FV15HP is more powerful than the VTF15h, between the two I would go for the FV15HP. However, in your space you might get better results with two powerful subs rather than one monster sub, So you might also look at two PSA XV15s or two VTF3 mk4s. You would want to space out dual subs for the best results.
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6. When im in the mood i want the bass to make a real statement

If this is what you really want, I suggest you save up $800 more and go with dual XS30s.

You have a very large space - approximately 9600 cu. ft. (assuming 8' ceilings). 2 XS30s will probably do it, but you may need 3 in a space that large to make a "real statement". wink.gif
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I always come across some money to burn every few months if my long term plan is to add a second sub should I just go with the best I can get in a single sub for $1500 and then plan on adding a duplicate down the road, if so what single sub would you go with ? I want to maintain quality but some of my musical tastes get pretty low on the bass spectrum and my current sub is cutting out at high vol/low freq
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I'd go with a single XS30 then another in a few months, and maybe still another in a few more months. If you can come up with that kind of money every few months - no brainer if you ask me. wink.gif

You may want to PM or call Tom at PSA to discuss what he thinks - he's very helpful with this sort of stuff.
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So im assuming going with a sealed sub is my best bet
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well to come back to the sub u mentionned , well obviously the fv15hp since u have the money for it and it kills the HSU one... but your room is not that large .. so lower output sub could give u pretty decent bass , so maybe 2 X xv15 or 2 Xs15 could be really good and smooth your room response !!! anyway tell us what u decide !
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and also , JL have their new sub comming in May ! 1400 RMS sealed sub for 1500 $ !!! and in your room even 1 could kill it !!! and image getting another one later
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So im assuming going with a sealed sub is my best bet

Depends....I'd discuss with Tom at PSA, he knows best.
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nemoreborn, I'd be careful when you say a FV15HP kills a VTF15H. You're going to ruffle a lot of feathers and its not exactly true either.
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Depends....I'd discuss with Tom at PSA, he knows best.
i appreciate your help
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Defiantly go into the PSA thread and you should see Tom's posts and fire off a pm to him. He's a great guy to deal with and very knowledgeable. He'll give you honest answers to your questions, even if that means not selling you one of his subs.
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i appreciate your help

I have literally been spending hours a day researching subs...trust me when I say Tom is first class when it comes to customer service. I felt his products are class leading for the price. I just ordered the xs30. The numbers speak for them self.


here is part of a email he sent me;

"A single XS30 will work very well here. If your room is relatively closed in (no huge openings to other areas of the home) the XS30 will extend down to the 7-10hz range for you. The exact output capabilities will depend on the subwoofer placement and the distance between the seating positions and the sub. However, barring something very unusual you can expect output capabilities of 121-127dB in the mid and upper bass (35-100hz). The max output capabilities in the deeper bass will depend a bit on the amount of "room gain" you have....but something in the 109-118dB range down to around 10hz would be a reasonable guess. I believe the XS30 is so popular because it combines the "room pressurization effect" ( dropping down to 7-11hz in most room) with really "violent" mid and upper bass slam factor. Also, the sound quality of the XS30 is exceptional as well. All of the sound quality related metrics(group delay, stored ringing, impulse response) all measure very well."


That is insane numbers for a 1149.00 dollar sub shipped to your door!
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nemoreborn, I'd be careful when you say a FV15HP kills a VTF15H. You're going to ruffle a lot of feathers and its not exactly true either.

if we refer to benchmark output fv15hp > vtf-15h .... sound quality or w/e idk .
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nemoreborn, I'd be careful when you say a FV15HP kills a VTF15H. You're going to ruffle a lot of feathers and its not exactly true either.

benchmark says yes . , but idk
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I have a budget in the $1500 area and have narrowed it down to 2 subs rhythmik fv15hp and hsu vtf-15h unless there is a better sub I am missing her is a rundown of what im trying to accomplish
Between the two, definitely the FV15HP. The 15H is a great sub for its price range, but since your budget is allowed, the FV15HP is a better sub all around. Two of them would be AWESOME cool.gif
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I personally would take a FV15HP over a VTF15H. But I also ended up choosing to take two XS30's over two FV15HP's.
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But I also ended up choosing to take two XS30's over two FV15HP's.
any particular reason? Just curious. Seal vs port, price, etc?
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any particular reason? Just curious. Seal vs port, price, etc?

I guess a lot of it had to do with just how great Tom was to deal with. Plus I wanted to try out a sealed sub. I knew I was going to give up a little down low from about 30hz to 18hz.

But don't let that fool you, the XS30 has plenty of output into the single digit range and up top they are pretty crazy. The XS30 is capable of hitting 122db in a 2m ground plane test, and then you factor in room gain and these things can play low and loud.

I really do like the Rythmik subs and if the F25 had been available at the time that would have made my decision a lot harder. I jumper in at the pre-order pricing so I got two XS30's for $2100 delivered, that's pretty amazing value when you consider the performance you get for that. Dual FV15HP's would have cost me about $2800. Which was still within my budget, but I just decided to go with a gut feeling and try out the XS30's and I'm glad I did.
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I see. Glad you are happy with your decision.
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I jumper in at the pre-order pricing so I got two XS30's for $2100 delivered, .


wow i would buy 2 xs30 right now if i could have those for this price shipped at my place !!!!

this is what i would cost me for 2 xv15 : $1980 for dual XV15s.
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I guess a lot of it had to do with just how great Tom was to deal with. Plus I wanted to try out a sealed sub. I knew I was going to give up a little down low from about 30hz to 18hz.

But don't let that fool you, the XS30 has plenty of output into the single digit range and up top they are pretty crazy. The XS30 is capable of hitting 122db in a 2m ground plane test, and then you factor in room gain and these things can play low and loud.

I really do like the Rythmik subs and if the F25 had been available at the time that would have made my decision a lot harder. I jumper in at the pre-order pricing so I got two XS30's for $2100 delivered, that's pretty amazing value when you consider the performance you get for that. Dual FV15HP's would have cost me about $2800. Which was still within my budget, but I just decided to go with a gut feeling and try out the XS30's and I'm glad I did.
exact same reason i went with PSA...however im almost regretting not buying 2 for the price savings. I cant wait for it to show up!! I really dont see why anybody would go with anything else for the price and performance. its cheaper than a f15hp, has dual 15" drivers, and more power= WINNING!
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wow i would buy 2 xs30 right now if i could have those for this price shipped at my place !!!!

this is what i would cost me for 2 xv15 : $1980 for dual XV15s.

Yeah I only live 20mins from the border so I just had them shipped to a holding company and drove down and got them and brought them across the border myself.

$1980 for two XV15's shipped to Canada is still a pretty good deal. Weren't you originally looking at a Paradigm sub12?
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I personally would take a FV15HP over a VTF15H. But I also ended up choosing to take two XS30's over two FV15HP's.

I personally would choose the Rythmik FV15HP over the PSA.
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I personally would choose the Rythmik FV15HP over the PSA.

So what would your reasoning be for that? It's usually always a good idea to give a little bit of an explanation to to why you would choose something over a competing product.
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I'm still in shock how much it cost to get a F25 shipped from Rythmik.
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I have a FV15 and it really really rocks the house! You want an FV15HP and that should make you very happy. My listening area is 14'x12'x 9'-12.5' ceilings, yes, I have dreaded cathedrial ceilings! And the rest of the room behind me goes back appox. 30'. Damn those Cailfornians! biggrin.gif

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I personally would choose the Rythmik FV15HP over the PSA.

So what would your reasoning be for that? It's usually always a good idea to give a little bit of an explanation to to why you would choose something over a competing product.

Rythmik's Direct Servo.
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The debate between FV15hp v.s XS30/XV30 will be continuing until someone has a sub shootout/GTG comparing the two or three in the same room. Come on, someone please do so so that it can be ended. These three subs have been mentioned/recommended in every other thread now.
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The debate between FV15hp v.s XS30/XV30 will be continuing until someone has a sub shootout/GTG comparing the two or three in the same room. Come on, someone please do so so that it can be ended. These three subs have been mentioned/recommended in every other thread now.

Shootouts and GTG's won't settle anything.

Why stop at the FV15HP? You'll have to throw the F25 into the mix, too.
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