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post #1 of 12 Old 04-03-2013, 08:37 PM - Thread Starter
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Need help deciding on what to buy, this will go in a 20x20x9 room. 80% HT HDTV 20% music/gaming, listening levels moderate volume, upgrading from a PL-200.

I am debating between SVS PB12NSD or an Outlaw LFM-1 EX

I like reviews on the SVS and warranty, free shipping, no CA TAX

The Outlaw LFM-1EX has similar specs and is currently on sale.

Based on specs and savings the outlaw seems like an easy choice, I'm hesitant due to the different reviews one mainly from audioholics regarding the build quality and driver used.

What are the main differences between the two subwoofers? Is the SVS worth the extra $140? I am also open to other suggestions in this price range.

Also what differences will notice between these two subwoofers vs the PL200 based on my usage? Thanks in advance
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Go for the Outlaw, it is a higher performing sub. The build quality and driver is on par with a PB12 NSD. Compare their measurements here, the NSD gets beaten easily. If they were equally priced it wouldn't be much of a decision, but at the current Outlaw sale, this is a complete no-brainer. Your Pl-200 is on data-bass as well, so you can compare it to the others. Remember that a 6 dB difference is a doubling of power so you would need two subs to equal one that has 6 dB more output. There are big swaths of mid bass where a single LFM-1 EX is like having two PB12 NSDs.
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I have the Outlaw LFM-1EX now and upgraded from the PL-200. Honestly, no comparison. The Outlaw sounds amazing, before the lady of the house would turn off the BIC sub because it hurt her ears. Now she always remembers to turn it on before she watches a movie. I picked mine up on Black Friday for a little less than the sell price but this sale has me thinking on grabbing another one.

My room is roughly 3.000+ and the Outlaw fills the room. I just love the BOOOOOOM scenes and really want the impact. I'd say the only downside of the Outlaw is the size, it's big and heavy.

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Need help deciding on what to buy, this will go in a 20x20x9 room. 80% HT HDTV 20% music/gaming, listening levels moderate volume, upgrading from a PL-200.

I am debating between SVS PB12NSD or an Outlaw LFM-1 EX

I like reviews on the SVS and warranty, free shipping, no CA TAX

The Outlaw LFM-1EX has similar specs and is currently on sale.

Based on specs and savings the outlaw seems like an easy choice, I'm hesitant due to the different reviews one mainly from audioholics regarding the build quality and driver used.

What are the main differences between the two subwoofers? Is the SVS worth the extra $140? I am also open to other suggestions in this price range.

Also what differences will notice between these two subwoofers vs the PL200 based on my usage? Thanks in advance

There will be a huge difference with the Outlaw EX compared to the PL-200: more SPL, deeper bass, more accurate bass, room shaking bass.

One thing to keep in mind is you have a square room which are the worst rooms for standing waves and room modes and nulls. So make sure you pay close attention to sub placement AND listening position. I would think the listening position should be 6 to 8 feet from the rear wall. You want to avoid sitting at the 50% mark.

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with your room being 3600^3 I would look into 2 12" subs or atleast 1 dual driver 15". the 1 12" sub will not be enough if your looking for high output room pressurizing bass. most internet direct sub companies will recomend 1 15" or 2 12" up to 3000^3.
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+1 to the LFM-1 EX. And, IMO, for a room that size you'll likely want two of them. (Buy one now, add another one the next time a sale comes around.)
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Thanks for the replies.

I am leaning towards the outlaw, for those that voted other what else would you recommend?
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Thanks for the replies.

I am leaning towards the outlaw, for those that voted other what else would you recommend?

So many good subs now. Another choice you might consider..

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-subwoofer-reviews/67309-rythmik-lv12r-subwoofer-review.html

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/LV12R.html

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The outlaw subs sound great. I owned the EX's little brother for a while. Best bang for the buck. I have also owned the older pb12nsd.

The svs is a little bit higher quality product IMO. Mostly fit and finish. Not saying the outlaw is bad. I just think svs is a little better.

Also, saying that the outlaw has more output based on those measurements is not totally correct. The outlaw shows more mid bass output but that's because the svs is dsp limited at those frequencies to have a flatter overall response.

I would bet they would be about the same in a room with EQ.

Is the svs worth $140 more? Not sure about that. Depends on the customer I guess.

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The Rythmik is definitely worth a look.
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Went with dual SB12's
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