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What happened to this sub? I haven't heard a peep out of anyone regarding the SVS flagship.

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A quick search of this forum site yields a couple of informative posts:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/737143/official-svs-owners-support-thread/7440#post_21890201

http://www.avsforum.com/t/737143/official-svs-owners-support-thread/7440#post_21910303

Looks like the planned SB16-Ultra was dropped at least a year ago.
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Bummer

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There is a pretty good chart on the cost of neodymium (which the SB16 driver used) over here.

To sum it up though, the price of 1lb of Neo in June of 2009 (in USD): $5.68. In June 2011 it had skyrocketed to $114.02/lb (USD).

Several new entities have entered the arena, with mines in several countries coming on line that may drive the cost back down somewhat, and the trend has been showing that, but it is still very expensive to use. According to one analysis from Industrial Minerals, Nd sold in March '13 (reported in April) for $75-$80/kg, or $34.1-$36.4/lb (USD). Much better, but still over six times the cost from a few years ago.

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Here some images of the SB16-Ultra.
Hopefully, over time, to resume the manufacture of this excellent subwoofer.










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I bet those 16's would be killer! I'd buy them in a heartbeat... SVS needs a "flagship" sub, that knocks the competition out.

Small sealed package with maybe a 2k watt amp, hmmm....
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The SB16 will probably have to 20hz to 30hz the output of a PB12-NSD and above will have more output than a PB13-Ultra DSP ...
If someday launch this model for sale, so we can check.
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I bet those 16's would be killer! I'd buy them in a heartbeat... SVS needs a "flagship" sub, that knocks the competition out.

Small sealed package with maybe a 2k watt amp, hmmm....

This already exists, it's called the Captivator S1 from JTR but it comes with a 2400watt amp wink.gif

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That is also a larger sealed box with an 18" driver, not 16". But, close!wink.gif
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Not by much, the enclosure in the picture of the SVS sub looks to be 20" tall if if had to guess. A CapS1 is only 21" tall. I'd be willing to bet the overall size of the SVS sub would be very close to the size of a Cap S1 if it had gone into production.

Of course there's no point in worrying about though since it was never built.

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This already exists, it's called the Captivator S1 from JTR but it comes with a 2400watt amp wink.gif

I really want to get my hands on one of those. Every time Jeff and I talk about a unit for review he invariably leads the conversation to the Cap1000 instead. He's going to build me a Cap1000 and send it next month, but one of these days I want to hear the S1.

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Man I would love to read a review from you Jim on a Cap S1!

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Man I would love to read a review from you Jim on a Cap S1!

I'll reach out to Jeff again and see what his take on it is.

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