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I currently have a Def Tech supercube 2 and I am not very happy with it. My wife will kill me if spend over $500 for another subwoofer. I will be selling my SC2 and am looking for a replacement. I have a relatively small living room haven't measure sq/ft but I would guess 200. I heard a lot of good things about the Bic PL200 any idea how it stacks up to the Def Tech SC2? I am concerned given the price difference of the two.

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Hard to know what the SuperCube II does, given that the specs are typically unclear and/or inflated:
- one 8" driver w/ dual 8" passive radiators
- 1,450 "mystery" watts amp
- 14-200Hz +/- ??dB

The PL-200 seems like a decent sub:
- 12" driver
- 250W RMS amp
- 22-200Hz +/- ?dB

For ~$300 (when on sale at Newegg.com), the Klipsch RW-12d is a solid choice and your best "bang for buck" option:
- 12" driver
- 350W RMS amp
- 24-120Hz +/-3dB

For $499 (shipped), the SVS PB-1000 would be an excellent choice:
- 10" driver
- 300W RMS amp
- 19-270Hz +/-3dB

The compact and WAF-friendly SVS SB-1000 - also $499 (shipped) - would be a worthy alternative:
- 12" driver
- 300W RMS amp
- 24-260Hz +/-3dB
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Thanks for the feedback I will look into the other subs. 14hz it doesn't sound like the SC2 gets anywhere close to 14hz to me.

Just found this video review of the pl200 http://vimeo.com/28632241

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Thanks for the feedback I will look into the other subs. 14hz it does sound like the SC2 get's that low to me.

Just found this video review of the pl200 http://vimeo.com/28632241

I've seen graphs of the Supercube 2 and have read the -3db point to be at 27Hz. Far from 14 Hz. And even if it was hitting 14Hz with serious punch, you wouldn't hear it. You would only feel the pressure and hear the items in your room rattling.

Any of the subs eljay mentioned will get you to frequencies you obviously haven't heard before. You'll be impressed with all subs mentioned. The PB-1000 would be my choice though.

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I've seen graphs of the Supercube 2 and have read the -3db point to be at 27Hz. Far from 14 Hz. And even if it was hitting 14Hz with serious punch, you wouldn't hear it. You would only feel the pressure and hear the items in your room rattling.

Any of the subs eljay mentioned will get you to frequencies you obviously haven't heard before. You'll be impressed with all subs mentioned. The PB-1000 would be my choice though.

Agreed, sorry I had a typo in my response I meant to say "does not" sound.

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Agreed, sorry I had a type in my response I mean to say "does not" sound.

Ah ok.

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In the $500 price point the PB1000 would be my recommendation too. OP, I would recommend you get the cubic square footage of the room (length x width x height). Is is open to other rooms or a sealed room? Also, where is your seating relative to the length of the room? Are you limited in terms of sub placement in the room?
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I am a former owner of a PL200, its a decent budget subwoofer @ $279 shipped...I sold mine because bass was boomy especially with music. The RW12 @ $300 sometimes less is a much better value in that price range.

If you can spend the $500 and buy SVS PB1000 or SB1000.

If your able to stretch your budget by $100...

B Stock SVS SB12 400 watt black gloss compact sub $599 high WAF amazing SQ and output for size

B Stock Outlaw LFM EX $599 shipped
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Great info. This setup will be for movies 90% of the time, rarely do we play music.

Here are the dimensions and layout of the room. Not exactly to scale but you get the idea.



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