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Wondering what people think between these two subs. The ML is used, in excellent condition for $470 and the SVS is new for $500. I'm torn between these two subs. What are your experiences with these? I'm looking for compact sealed cabinet, with tight clean bass. Music more than HT. Anyone ever try the wireless option for the ML? Which should I go for? Don't want to go much over $500. Super tough decision.

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IMO, it's not that tough a call. Both subs have 300W amps and extension to 24Hz @ -3dB. The SVS may be a bit larger. Performance is likely comparable. I'd pay the extra $30 for a new SB-1000 with a five-year warranty.
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That's a good point. They're pretty similar in size (give or take an inch or so). Warranty is important. Just curious if anyone has experienced the wireless aspect of the ML, and is it reliable? A sub that I can put anywhere sounds like a great idea, but I don't want interference or any weird garbage like that. Any thoughts on the wireless aspect? From what I've been reading here and other places, SVS seems to be the winner for most, but still trying to get more opinions/experiences. Thanks.

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I did a review on the SB1000 just recently, so I'm quite familiar with that one. Ironically, I'm listening to a Dynamo 1500X as I type this, so that will be my next review. It's the 15" version in the Dynamo series though, so it's not the 700 you're looking at, but it might share some of the same general characteristics.

Before I say much more it's important to know what type of music you listen to and how large your room is. That info could go a long way towards determining which might be the better option for you.

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I have a pretty extensive and varied collection. My music is all on CD and Pandora for the most part. Also have DVD an BD concerts. I listen to many variations of metal, classic rock, progressive rock/metal, bluegrass, Grateful Dead, etc. Not into rap or hip hop. My room is approx. 15' X 12' X 7' high. One corner leads up stairs, and opposite side leads to kitchen. Entry to kitchen is approx. 4' X 7'.

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Hey Jim,

I can't wait to read your review on the ML Dynamo 1500x. I'm pretty set on purchasing one in the next 30 days when I move into my new home.
Let me know when it's up.

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I have a pretty extensive and varied collection. My music is all on CD and Pandora for the most part. Also have DVD an BD concerts. I listen to many variations of metal, classic rock, progressive rock/metal, bluegrass, Grateful Dead, etc. Not into rap or hip hop. My room is approx. 15' X 12' X 7' high. One corner leads up stairs, and opposite side leads to kitchen. Entry to kitchen is approx. 4' X 7'.

That's not a very large space, so either would probably work quite well for you. However, eljay's point is valid; the SVS would be new, and have a warranty. In addition, it would also come with the SVS Bill Of Rights, which helps with upgrades in the future. There's value in that, especially if it turns out that the SB1000 ends up not satisfying your needs.

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I can't wait to read your review on the ML Dynamo 1500x. I'm pretty set on purchasing one in the next 30 days when I move into my new home. Let me know when it's up.

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So I must say, that was a very thorough review. Of the two, my interests lie in the SB for a few reasons. I'm looking for music first and HT second, plus sealed cabs are obviously more compact, and I have little space to play around with. Also, I heard/read that ported subs have more boominess than sealed, and I don't want boominess. I'm looking for clear tight bass and I'm sure a sealed cab will give me plenty of what I need for HT applications. That said, your review is one ofbthe best I'he read, and I'm getting close to sold on the SB. I'm still trying to decide whether the 700 is what I need. The wireless option for it is very attractive, but I don't want to hose myself on a wireless sub that gives me feedback and interference. When do you plan on reviewing the Dynamo? Love to read it, and see what you think of wireless. Although, I might not wait as the SVS SB-1000 sounds amazing. Thanks.

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...also, not sure if it matters, but I'm only running stereo right now. I'm in no hurry for surround, since I would need to figure out how to find the best wire placement, with the least amount of clutter. I live in a house, so I don't have to worry about neighbors on the other side of the wall. My receiver is Yamaha RX-V1065 and I have a pair of B&W 685's on 25" stands on either side of my TV. The sub will be my next addition to my slowly evolving system. FYI, this is my first attempt at a component system, since my little Sony shelf stereo crapped out on me, so it's already a major improvement.

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The Dynamo 1500X review will be published within the next two weeks, but there won't be anything regarding wireless. ML gave me a Perfect Bass Kit but not the wireless option, so I won't be able to report on that.

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The Dynamo 1500X review will be published within the next two weeks, but there won't be anything regarding wireless. ML gave me a Perfect Bass Kit but not the wireless option, so I won't be able to report on that.

You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.

Anything else you can say about the 1500X? I have been really interested in buying dual 1500X to go with my MLs.

Dying to see this review!
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So, I assume the one year trade-up policy includes paying the difference between the price of what I buy, an the price I would pay for a different sub if I were to upgrade? Damn, the wireless part was what I was hoping for. Kind of important for choosing the ML, as the ML is easier accessible for auditioning. I could probably audition it wireless, but sitting in an audition room for half an hour is different than buying it and finding out later that the wireless part doesn't work out for me. Seen a couple reviews in places like best buy and amazon, but nothing in great detail.

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You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.

Anything else you can say about the 1500X? I have been really interested in buying dual 1500X to go with my MLs.

Dying to see this review!

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So, I assume the one year trade-up policy includes paying the difference between the price of what I buy, an the price I would pay for a different sub if I were to upgrade? Damn, the wireless part was what I was hoping for. Kind of important for choosing the ML, as the ML is easier accessible for auditioning. I could probably audition it wireless, but sitting in an audition room for half an hour is different than buying it and finding out later that the wireless part doesn't work out for me. Seen a couple reviews in places like best buy and amazon, but nothing in great detail.

I can't speak directly to what ML's wireless option is capable of, but one of the reviews I did - the Phase Technology sub - had wireless included. For me it worked flawlessly, no matter where I put the sub. I even tried moving it to my bedroom and it still played fine. No issues with my remote controls, cordless phone, cell phone, etc.

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To the OP; Wireless certainly has its merits, and the HSU ULS 15 has it, among other subs.

The more complex the design, the more that can go wrong. As has been noted, a used complex sub versus a new sub, SVS, with a 5 year warranty would give me peace of mind over the apparently warranty-less ML 700.
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I had the dynamo 700 and the wireless is excellent! Worked flawlessly anywhere in the room. My room is 12'w x 25' L. If you want the wireless and the ability to change from down firing to front firing,you can do that with the logan. I don't think the logan goes any lower than 25hz tho. I'm not fond of wood subs like the svs. But if you don't need to move it around,the svs will probably out perform the 700.
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Around 2600 cu ft. with one standard doorway
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The Dynamo 1500X review will be published within the next two weeks, but there won't be anything regarding wireless. ML gave me a Perfect Bass Kit but not the wireless option, so I won't be able to report on that.

I was seriously considering this model before I bought my PB 13Ultra. I'm looking forward to reading your review.
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Around 2600 cu ft. with one standard doorway

I can't divulge too much prior to the review being published, but I can tell you this; a pair of these in a 2600 ft^3 room would work very well. There are less expensive options that are similar in size - the Rythmik E15HP springs immediately to mind - but the Dynamo 1500X turned out to be a pleasant surprise.

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I was seriously considering this model before I bought my PB 13Ultra. I'm looking forward to reading your review.

The PB13U or the SB13U? The PB is aimed at a different target audience then the Dynamo 1500X is. The SB and the ML sub are more likely competitors.

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The PB13U or the SB13U? The PB is aimed at a different target audience then the Dynamo 1500X is. The SB and the ML sub are more likely competitors.

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Well I just ordered a brand new SVS SB-1000!! They say 2 to 5 business days, and I have to sign for delivery, which makes me feel more secure. Ordered directly from SVS. They use USPS, correct? Can't wait!! I was really torn between the SB-1000 and ML Dynamo 700. So all that said, do people around here have subwoofer cable preferences, or does it matter? SVS website tried to sell me some. Are those worth the money, or can I get high quality for less bills?

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So all that said, do people around here have subwoofer cable preferences, or does it matter? SVS website tried to sell me some. Are those worth the money, or can I get high quality for less bills?

So long as you don't buy the thinnest/cheapest cable virtually any one will suffice for a short run.

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What are good brands that are inexpensive? Also, regarding the sub itself, I'm under the impression it doesn't come with spikes. Are there spikes out there that can be installed/attached without damaging the sub?

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How long of a cable do you need? If you run to best buy,you can get a decent one. Just don't fall for the expensive high tech cables. Otherwise there is monoprice or blue jeans cable.. Those are cheap and quality!
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Probably 8 ft at most. I know Monster is considered the Bose of cable, in that the quality is good, but not for the price. Been looking on eBay.

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How about spikes, or do I need them? Flooring is carpet.

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Probably 8 ft at most. I know Monster is considered the Bose of cable, in that the quality is good, but not for the price. Been looking on eBay.

Just buy one of the sub cables from monoprice. Monster cable is a rip-off.

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Performance will be basically identical on any cable you get as long as its not some 22awg thing tongue.gif. I like the look of thick cables with nice braids so i spend a little more to get this feature. Part of the reason is my mom loves to vacuum cables and the other part is asthetics. Wait for sales i think i paid 15-17 for my 4m cable. In canada thats pretty much a steal
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