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I am curious who to know.

Who here with EXTENSIVE sub woofer experience has gotten rid of a Rythmik, SVS, PSA, HSU, CHT, JTR sub setup due to sound quality or other reason?

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I think you will be hard pressed to find someone that has gotten rid of one of those subs due to sound quality. However I know there is a member on here (sorry forgot who it was) who sold their 15h because he went DIY. The only reason people would be willing to sell those subs is to chase the single digits which is only possible with spending a ton of cash on ID and even still depending on room acoustics may not be possible.

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I think you will be hard pressed to find someone that has gotten rid of one of those subs due to sound quality. However I know there is a member on here (sorry forgot who it was) who sold their 15h because he went DIY. The only reason people would be willing to sell those subs is to chase the single digits which is only possible with spending a ton of cash on ID and even still depending on room acoustics may not be possible.

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I don't think anyone would say they've sold any of the mentioned brands based on SQ. Some may say they've noticed an improvment when moving from one brand to another, but I doubt it would be a factor before they moved away from one brand.

As mentioned, many people who move away from the mentioned subs probably do so to pursue DIY. Though it doesn't take a "ton of cash" to reach single digits, and it isn't only possible with ID subs. For the price of a JTR Cap you could easily build a DIY setup that outperforms every sub listed, hits single digits with ease and authority, all with better sound quality.

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When I moved my HT from my main-floor family room to my newly-finished basement HT space, I replaced my SVS PB10-NSD with a PB12-NSD in order to get greater "pressurization".

After a couple of years, I replaced the PB12-NSD with a pair of ChaseHT SS-18.1s because I wanted a bit more output and I felt that the PB12, while great with movies, sounded a bit "flabby" with music.

I've had my ChaseHT SS-18.1s for a little over two years and I'm still very happy with them. If I were to replace them, it would be to get a pair of subs that would provide greater extension than the flat-to-17Hz I'm currently getting.
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got rid of SVS pb12-nsd...because the grill kept rattling loose. during bass intensive passages. glad it kept falling off, because the PSA xv15 blows it away for 50$ more

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I have owned quiet a few different subs. I think the single best thing I ever did was using multiple subs. The smoother room response had a bigger impact than how deep or loud the subs went. I reference this to using some nice subs although not super expensive. In one setup I had an Epik Legend, SVS 25-31 and Premiere Acoustic. Although not identical, they blended well together and the bass was clean and articulate. Currently I am using dual Chase 18.1 subs that will go deeper and louder. The key is that good bass comes from careful setup and tweaking with multiple subs to even out the response in the room.

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Thanks. FYI I went with PSA dual XV 30fs.

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I am curious who to know.

Who here with EXTENSIVE sub woofer experience has gotten rid of a Rythmik, SVS, PSA, HSU, CHT, JTR sub setup due to sound quality or other reason?

I have changed subs more times than I can remember including DIY... 13 SVS’s alone. I really had no reason once I reached a certain level except to say I just like subs so much and wanted to experience all that I could. I finally pretty much snapped out of it. I remember one time buying two 13” ULTRA’S and then selling them after a month to do a DIY project... ridiculous!
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I remember one time buying two 13” ULTRA’S and then selling them after a month to do a DIY project... ridiculous!

I see this sort of behavior in a better light, one of entertainment vs that of being ridiculous. I still have a couple of large boxes filled with camera bags as I pretty much tried every bag combination out there. The conclusion, it's the fault of lense manufactures for not giving lenses enough useful range as their cutoff points, required carrying several additional lenses, to their financial benefit. In the meantime, I had a blast trying out all the different bag combinations and this doesn't include all the additional lenses I tried that I didn't have need of. My wife thought I had lost my mind but I was having fun; entertainment; a hobby.

In the case of subwoofers, they're much larger than a lense/carrying case combination as pretty much, in our case, life has been narrowed down to Rythmik and PSA.

There are only so many locations in the living room for a subwoofer and with forums such as AVS, one is able to easily gain the collective wisdom of many years of experience in which to base a buying decision so one is able to buy once or twice and be done with it and then worry about more important things such as, which metal detector to buy or what organic garden product should be introduced into the garden this week. tongue.gif

Sounds like you were having a blast with all the different subwoofers you bought. Envy, envy, envy. biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the good word Bee, but the truth is I’m a/was SW addict. I did have fun though and still do to a degree. It’s more of a hobby now, so that’s much more of a better thing. smile.gif

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I have changed subs more times than I can remember including DIY... 13 SVS’s alone. I really had no reason once I reached a certain level except to say I just like subs so much and wanted to experience all that I could. I finally pretty much snapped out of it. I remember one time buying two 13” ULTRA’S and then selling them after a month to do a DIY project... ridiculous!
That’s great, good for you. CONGRATS! cool.gif

So, a side from DIY, which are. Your favorite?

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I have changed subs more times than I can remember including DIY... 13 SVS’s alone. I really had no reason once I reached a certain level except to say I just like subs so much and wanted to experience all that I could. I finally pretty much snapped out of it. I remember one time buying two 13” ULTRA’S and then selling them after a month to do a DIY project... ridiculous!
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So, a side from DIY, which are. Your favorite?

Let me be sure I understand your question correctly.. your asking me what was my favorite ID sub? Don’t mean to be slow, there is a period in your question, so I just want to confirm is all.

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Thanks for the good word Bee, but the truth is I’m a/was SW addict. I did have fun though and still do to a degree. It’s more of a hobby now, so that’s much more of a better thing. smile.gif

To continue being encouraging....we all need outlets of entertainment. Some go on cruises, some get lap dances, some like to light candles. In the end, we all have to do something with time not involved with chasing the all important dollar. Look at it this way, for entertainment purposes, you could be addicted to outboard motors.

Let's see, should I buy a Yamaha 225HP outboard motor and a Zodiak to match or a pair of Rythmik, F25's.......hmmmmmmmm.

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Let me be sure I understand your question correctly.. your asking me what was my favorite ID sub? Don’t mean to be slow, there is a period in your question, so I just want to confirm is all.

Correct. And, that was my fault. Im on the iPad right now and sometimes i let it get the best of me. smile.gif

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To continue being encouraging....we all need outlets of entertainment. Some go on cruises, some get lap dances, some like to light candles. In the end, we all have to do something with time not involved with chasing the all important dollar. Look at it this way, for entertainment purposes, you could be addicted to outboard motors.

Let's see, should I buy a Yamaha 225HP outboard motor and a Zodiak to match or a pair of Rythmik, F25's.......hmmmmmmmm.

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Ha ha.. Yeah I remember selling my truck and boat when we found out our first was on the way. It was a list of different things after that although more productive.. like working on our houses and lots of lawn work. I remember chomping at the bit so I could come home and work on some house/outside project.

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I am curious who to know.

Who here with EXTENSIVE sub woofer experience has gotten rid of a Rythmik, SVS, PSA, HSU, CHT, JTR sub setup due to sound quality or other reason?

Only when I upgrade to Rythmik F15HP, will I consider selling my F12SE. biggrin.gif
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So, a side from DIY, which are. Your favorite?

I think I would choose the ACi Maestro! It was a pretty heavily Q’d sealed sub with a +-2dB down to 18Hz. Did it ever sound good and had the authority I wanted out of a sealed down low.

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Just saw this thread. Yes, I have owned SVS, CHT, and JTR and sold them all.

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