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Hi all,

My old Logitech Z-560 speaker system has died. I have decided this time around to re-vamp the gaming PC's sound quality. I am connecting a home theater receiver to some 14 year old Infinity Entra Point Fives. However, the Z-560 sub woofer is the item that burned out. It's was a fantastic near-field sub woofer for PC gaming. Just the right amount of bass without interrupting neighboring rooms too much and it was clean enough to do music justice as well.

I have been trying to find a sub within 14" x 14" x 14" (or smaller) sub woofer for use with my gaming PC at home. I've never really paid much attention to the "small" subwoofer category. The sub can be either an 8" or 10" sub. It's important that it fits in my PC desk area and not be intrusive. However, I do want decent performance. At least as good a performance as my busted 9" Z-560 sub woofer gave me.

Any suggestions?

I have currently looked at:
$175.98 - Martin Logan Dynamo 300 - 8" Subwoofer
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Home-Theater-and-Stereo-8-Subwoofer-NEW-/181163116277

$109.95 - PBX HOME AUDIO PBX-8.1 - 8" Subwoofer
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PBX-HOME-AUDIO-by-PowerBass-PBX-8-1-8-THEATER-AMPLIFIED-POWERED-SUB-SUBWOOFER-/160967872542

$89.99 - YAMAHA YST-SW012 - 8" Subwoofer
http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAHA-sub-POWERED-subwoofer-HOME-THEATER-8-YST-SW012-/130794701711

$99.88 - Acoustic Audio PSW-8 - 8" Subwoofer
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acoustic-Audio-PSW-8-Powered-8-Subwoofer-Home-Theater-300-Watts-Surround-New-/400514771752

$170 - Energy ESW-C8 8" Subwoofer
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0021L9BMO/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

$120 - Pinnacle SubSonix 10-200 10" Subwoofer
http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-Speakers-SubSonix-10-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B003IT70B2/ref=sr_1_18?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1372102805&sr=1-18&keywords=bic+subwoofer
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Velodyne has the bass matrix 10" on close out for 199.00
http://velodyne.com/bassmatrix-10.html
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What about the 12" Dayton for $120? They have a 10" too.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-635

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Velodyne has the bass matrix 10" on close out for 199.00
http://velodyne.com/bassmatrix-10.html

Too big. Need no larger than 14" x 14" x 14". Any of the dimensions can be less, but no more than 14".
15.9” x 15” x 16.8”
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What about the 12" Dayton for $120? They have a 10" too.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-635

The Dayton 8" looks like the best candidate so far:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-627

It fits the size requirements, looks like it should be a good near-field performer and it's price is very affordable.
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Any more competitors folks? Keep 'em comin'.
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Cool. It's a nice looking little sub. But it's out of stock on that link.
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The Dayton 8" looks like the best candidate so far:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-627

It fits the size requirements, looks like it should be a good near-field performer and it's price is very affordable.

I forgot about the 8" I did notice the 10 and 12 were to big after posting though.

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The Dayton 8" looks like the best candidate so far:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-627

It fits the size requirements, looks like it should be a good near-field performer and it's price is very affordable.

Go with the Dayton and save yourself some cash. I've had experience with the 10" model in a small and midsize room an it both cases it has performed great considering its price . I suspect that the 8" will do well placed near field in a computer setup
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I did a review on the 8” or 10” like twenty years ago and it did very well. I would bet it’s even a better sub now.

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I'm using the Outlaw M8 Subwoofer on my PC setup... it sounds fantastic but I didn't place it nearfield and I also have it calibrated with Audyssey which I'm sure helps.
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Cool. It's a nice looking little sub. But it's out of stock on that link.

I was thinking you could call your local home depot and see if they have any in stock.
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The Martin Logan Dynamo 300 is on sale for 129$ on amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372183200&sr=8-1&keywords=martin+logan+dynamo+300

At that price the Dynamo seems like the best performer.

The Pinnacle looks decent as well but the larger driver appears to be used for more output than the 8" subs rather than deeper extension: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1292291/thoughts-on-the-pinnacle-speakers-sub-sonix

Acoustic Audio doesn't sound all that reliable based on the amazon.com reviews, and they are grossly over specced.

The Dayton is a good sub for the price but I would take the Dynamo at it's sale price.

Edit: On second thought performance between the Dayton and Dynamo would probably be closer than I originally thought,
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The Martin Logan Dynamo 300 is on sale for 129$ on amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Dynamo-300-Theater-Subwoofer/dp/B004LRPXAU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372183200&sr=8-1&keywords=martin+logan+dynamo+300

At that price the Dynamo seems like the best performer.

Acoustic Audio doesn't sound all that reliable based on the amazon.com reviews, and they are grossly over specced.

The Pinnacle looks decent as well but the larger driver appears to be used for more output than the 8" subs rather than deeper extension: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1292291/thoughts-on-the-pinnacle-speakers-sub-sonix

The Dayton is a good sub for the price but I would take the Dynamo at it's sale price.

Good find on the ML 300. $130 includes shipping from Amazon.
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Whoa. So far the contenders are:

Martin Logan Dynamo 300
Dayton Audio SUB-800
NXG-8 (intriguing, but not in stock that I can find)

Consideration would be given to the Outlaw sub, but it's skirting the $300 price limit and with shipping....busts that limit. If I go up to $300, I need the sub to be head and shoulder above the rest and on the surface, it doesn't seem to be any better than the ML 300 or Dayton models.

The NXG is intriguing because of it's aluminum looking cone material. The Infinity Entra satellites I will be utilizing boast a CMMD sandwich of Ceramic, Alumina & Aluminum. I usually like to match driver materials because I'm a believer in timbre matching. The speed of sound is influenced by driver material. With proper DSP from a receiver, any delays in sound arrival likely will get tightened up anyway, but it's always worked for me to match driver materials from sub to tweet like I did in my living room running all poly drivers.

Regardless, I'd like more opinions from the masses on this one. Fire away bassheads!
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There are a few other factors at work pertaining to "Speed of sound" than cone material, so I wouldn't worry about that to much.

The Nxg is out of stock everywhere I've seen it, almost as though they've discontinued it, and it would have alot of ground to make up in the areas of amp power and driver power handling in order to match the Martin Logan or Dayton due to it's smaller enclosure.
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There are a few other factors at work pertaining to "Speed of sound" than cone material, so I wouldn't worry about that to much.

The Nxg is out of stock everywhere I've seen it, almost as though they've discontinued it, and it would have alot of ground to make up in the areas of amp power and driver power handling in order to match the Martin Logan or Dayton due to it's smaller enclosure.

So, it's a battle of the Dayton vs the ML-300. Are there any direct comparisons of these subs by anyone? Any measurements from near-field listening? When seated, it would be about 1-meter from sub to my head, so 1-meter measurements shouldn't be too hard to obtain for these subs and what their responses, SPL, etc were like.
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