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I have a $2,000 budget to buy a 7.1 (or 7.2 if it fits within my budget) speaker system. The question I have is essentially should I spend $1,000 on a sub and $1,000 on the left, center, right and surrounds, or $500 on a sub and $1,500 on lcr and surrounds? For example, which of the following would be a better system for approximately $2,000:

Hsu Hybrid 15 7.1 package (1 VTF-15H sub, 6 HB-1 MK2 bookshelves, 1 HC-1 MK2 center)

vs.

A 7.1 system with a Rythmik LV12R sub and Emp Tek speakers (2 E55Ti towers, 1 E56Ci center, 4 E5Bi bookshelves)

Also, among the following speaker companies, which are better for a home theater:

HTD
Emp
Ascend
Arx
Axiom
Hsu
Aperion

For background, I have a 19' x 11' room with the screen on the 11' wall. I have vaulted ceilings with a high point of 12'. I will be using the room for movies, tv, sports and some gaming (no music).

Thanks!
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For speakers I would stick with either Ascend, HSU or Arx speaker packages. I personally would be more inclined to buy a better sub now and add a second one later.

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I personally would spend more on the sub than the speakers.

A incredible sub will make a set of mediocre speakers sound great.

A mediocre sub will make a set of incredible speakers sound bad.

A lot can be had these days for $500 - $1000 in the speaker market - especially if considering used.

I personally think you need to spend about $1K to get a decent sub outside of DIY (which can be done much cheaper these days as well) I'm looking at Epic Empire/HSU VTF-15H as a minimum for an introduction to a jaw dropping movie experience that will make your guests visibly enthralled with a demonstration -- and those 1K subs best utilized in a smaller room to get the wow factor that makes that happen.

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I personally would spend more on the sub than the speakers.

A incredible sub will make a set of mediocre speakers sound great.

A mediocre sub will make a set of incredible speakers sound bad.

A lot can be had these days for $500 - $1000 in the speaker market - especially if considering used.

I personally think you need to spend about $1K to get a decent sub outside of DIY (which can be done much cheaper these days as well) I'm looking at Epic Empire/HSU VTF-15H as a minimum for an introduction to a jaw dropping movie experience that will make your guests visibly enthralled with a demonstration -- and those 1K subs best utilized in a smaller room to get the wow factor that makes that happen.

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Ascend acoustic cmt340se mains

Ascend acoustic Cmt340se center

Ascend acoustic htm200 surrounds

Rythmik lv12r

Use the rest on a receiver.

Yamaha rxv373

Ascend acoustics cbm 340se mains
Ascend acoustics 340se center
Ascend acoustics 170se rear SS

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Actually the cbm 170 is on sale if u would rather have those for surround

Yamaha rxv373

Ascend acoustics cbm 340se mains
Ascend acoustics 340se center
Ascend acoustics 170se rear SS

Rythmik lv12r
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all really good advice here! buy the best sub you can afford. I would probably go with that hsu package if I was starting from scratch...its a good deal. I am beginning to believe big floor standing speakers is point less with quality subs.
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I have a $2,000 budget to buy a 7.1 (or 7.2 if it fits within my budget) speaker system. The question I have is essentially should I spend $1,000 on a sub and $1,000 on the left, center, right and surrounds, or $500 on a sub and $1,500 on lcr and surrounds? For example, which of the following would be a better system for approximately $2,000:

Hsu Hybrid 15 7.1 package (1 VTF-15H sub, 6 HB-1 MK2 bookshelves, 1 HC-1 MK2 center)

vs.

A 7.1 system with a Rythmik LV12R sub and Emp Tek speakers (2 E55Ti towers, 1 E56Ci center, 4 E5Bi bookshelves)

Also, among the following speaker companies, which are better for a home theater:

HTD
Emp
Ascend
Arx
Axiom
Hsu
Aperion

For background, I have a 19' x 11' room with the screen on the 11' wall. I have vaulted ceilings with a high point of 12'. I will be using the room for movies, tv, sports and some gaming (no music).

Thanks!
Do u currently have a AVR? or does that have to fit in your $2000 price point?
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I personally would spend more on the sub than the speakers.

A incredible sub will make a set of mediocre speakers sound great.

A mediocre sub will make a set of incredible speakers sound bad.
+ 1000. I have a $1300 Rythmik FV15hp sub but please do not ask what speakers I have as I am embarrass to tell. The main thing is I am very happy now.
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+ 1000. I have a $1300 Rythmik FV15hp sub but please do not ask what speakers I have as I am embarrass to tell. The main thing is I am very happy now.

So what speakers do u have? biggrin.gif:p

Yamaha rxv373

Ascend acoustics cbm 340se mains
Ascend acoustics 340se center
Ascend acoustics 170se rear SS

Rythmik lv12r
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He's saying he's embarrassed so if I had to take a guess probably Bose. Because I've heard people say they were embarrassed about those before. Am I right? smile.gif
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Come on guys, I am better than that. No body in this forum owns Box Of Sh!tty Equipment B.O.S.E.
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+ 1000. I have a $1300 Rythmik FV15hp sub but please do not ask what speakers I have as I am embarrass to tell. The main thing is I am very happy now.

Yes, do tell? biggrin.gif

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Come on guys, I am better than that. No body in this forum owns Box Of Sh!tty Equipment B.O.S.E.

I own the Bose QuietComfort 15 noise cancelling headphones, and actually quite enjoy them. They are great for travel.

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^^ those are good headphones but you can do better for much less.
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^^ those are good headphones but you can do better for much less.

They were a gift from my wife so I know better then to take them back wink.gif

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^^
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Come on guys, I am better than that. No body in this forum owns Box Of Sh!tty Equipment B.O.S.E.


actually the bose 301's are not too bad...I can get them for 190.00 a pair all day.
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Do u currently have a AVR? or does that have to fit in your $2000 price point?

I currently do not have an AVR and an AVR is not included in the $2,000 budget. Once I have bought my speakers, I will buy an AVR, with a budget of $500.
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I personally would spend more on the sub than the speakers.

A incredible sub will make a set of mediocre speakers sound great.

A mediocre sub will make a set of incredible speakers sound bad.

A lot can be had these days for $500 - $1000 in the speaker market - especially if considering used.

I personally think you need to spend about $1K to get a decent sub outside of DIY (which can be done much cheaper these days as well) I'm looking at Epic Empire/HSU VTF-15H as a minimum for an introduction to a jaw dropping movie experience that will make your guests visibly enthralled with a demonstration -- and those 1K subs best utilized in a smaller room to get the wow factor that makes that happen.
Yep, I agree with all said here. Look in the AVS classifieds, there are some great buys in there. You could walk away with a nice 5.1 package with 2K. Guys are always upgrading and looking for quick cash. Not me, but other guys are biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the responses. To set the stage, I am by no means an audiophile. I have been listening to golf ball size Sony speakers for the past 4 years or so. So, anything would be an upgrade from those. Also, I would like to purchase and complete my media room without any need to make further purchases in the future. Now, my question. Everyone has bought up great suggestions which now has me between 3 speaker packages:

- The Hsu Hybrid 15 package with the HTF-15H sub, 1 HC-1 MK2, 6 HB-1 MK2 for $2,122
- Two Rythmik LV12R's for $1,158.28 with the remaining ~$800 for the 7 speakers
- 1 Rythmik FV15HP for $1,379.11 with the remaining ~$600 for the 7 speakers

I know that I will be happy with any of the speaker packages listed above, but there's no harm in trying to figure out which system will make me "happiest". Now, among those packages, which is the best value?
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I would opt for option 1 or 3. Tough call there. Or keep option 1 and get the PSA XV15 in place of the VTF15 to save a bit over $200 toward a good receiver. I know you mentioned about $500 budget for an AVR but I would save up for the Denon X4000 (~$1100) with Audessey XT32 processing that makes your system sounds better especially in the subwoofer department.
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Go for the best subwoofers , you can skimp on the other speakers for now if there are budget issues. You can even start with a 3.1, then add the rest in the future when budget permits. Its a lot easier to upgrade the smaller speakers than to upgrade a subwoofer due to its size and cost.
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I currently do not have an AVR and an AVR is not included in the $2,000 budget. Once I have bought my speakers, I will buy an AVR, with a budget of $500.

I agree with others about buying a good sub. But u can also get some really good speakers for a cheap price that sound very good. Suggestion:

Pioneer SP-552'S floorstanding speakers
Pioneer SP-C22 center channel
Pioneer SPB522-LR bookshelf speakers (2) pair
From amazon for $529.95

Yamaha RX-V573BL 7.1 for $349.99 from tiger direct

Which including the $500 you wanted to spend on a receiver leaves u $1620.06 left to buy a very good sub are 2. Just throwing that out there.
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With a good sub, floor standing speakers aren't needed. I bought 2 pairs of bookshelves speakers and using the same three across my LCR in my theater. Remember if you can use all three of the same speakers in vertical position, it is the best. I use the last speaker from the pair as center for my family room with in ceiling speakers.
From what I've been reading, receiver with Audessey is still one of the best.
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Even in that case he can still get 6 bookshelf's and have even more money for a sub. smile.gif either way they are a great deal and sound very good. And Yamaha's setup system works very well also as noted by many reviewers. They say it does just as good of a job as audessey with one Mic position compared to.multiple locations.
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I believe the lower end Yamaha AVR does not calibrate sub which is extremely important.
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I believe the lower end Yamaha AVR does not calibrate sub which is extremely important.
They do calibrate the sub also. Just like most auto setups all u have to do is adjust it slightly for your liking. Like I said its actually a great deal.
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