Originally Posted by MKtheater
I should buy that used one and send it in but then I would get blasted. I don't see why an end user can't test their own subs.
Originally Posted by Cowboys
I understand that Mark does not want Craig to send in his sub but to me, it is my sub and I can do whatever I want with it if Josh agrees to test my sub.
Yes, they're my subs, and I could send one in for testing if I wanted to. Mark hasn't "forbidden" me from sending one in, and there is no legal action he could take if I did. But I would only be doing it for the sake of the forum, and to put an end to all the debate and speculation and whining
. For myself, I don't need any 3rd party verification of the Submersive's performance capabilities. All I need to do is walk into my theater and I have all the proof I need. I have measured my own Submersives in my own room, and I know EXACTLY what they're capable of.
Frankly, it's more important to me to respect Mark's timetable than it is to provide the forum with some numbers. I consider Mark a friend, I am not about to jeopardize that friendship just so the self-proclaimed "experts" on this forum have some numbers to bandy about.
Besides, I doubt Josh Ricci would even accept one of my subs for testing at this point. MK, before you buy that used one and send to Josh, contact him and see if he'll even accept it.
Originally Posted by Steve1981
I'm not skeptical that under a variety of circumstances/program material, the SubM could best the PB13; I am skeptical of claims such as the one I commented on re: an 8+dB advantage over the entire spectrum. That's where sub testing comes in handy: to separate the truth from exaggeration. Personally, I'd expect it to perform quite similarly to the Funk 18.0 given the comparable displacement and amplification, which is very much apples and oranges with the PB13.
You might want to contact Doug, (council), to verify this, but I'm pretty sure he meant that FOUR Submersives have 8 dB more output than FOUR Ultra's, which a much less unbelievable claim than a 1 to 1 comparison.
Bandy on, boys!