Originally Posted by 316
Correct me if I'm wrong, but those types of low octave subs don't have that "slam and chest pump" to them and are more of a rumble/vibration. I want that too for explosions and stuff like that but in my mind I just don't think one type of subwoofer can handle both...I could be wrong and probably am but its hard because its not like I can go down to the local Audio shop and hear but again from my experience there is a sound that only horns and 15"-18" can deliver.
I don't plan on cranking my system up all the time but I want all that headroom when the action calls for it and I do not want my system to fail when called upon. If on occasion I feel like I want that concert level sound pressure on let's say a music video, I want my system to act like I'm at a concert and I want to feel that chest slam and in some types of music that low "synthetic bass" for that I think I need two different "types" of subs.
Your above, outlines your dilemma very nicely. First things first, absolutely, a well thought out and integrated subwoofer sound reproduction system will have "PLENTY!" of "slam and chest pump." A poorly thought out, anemic, underpowered, poorly integrated subwoofer sound reproduction system, won't give you diddle and will become one of life's disappointments. I hate it when in the end, it actually becomes philosophical; gestalt.
Please, please, please, despite what folks will post, do not confuse music and Home Theater. Once one tries to think music is Home Theater and Home Theater is music, all hope of understanding the why of it all, is gone. Pffft, out the window.
Most music does not go below 31Hz unless specifically engineered to do so; synthetic; pseudo; fake. If one tried, I guess one could say an eighty foot pipe organ pipe is normal and not fake or intentionally grandiose; unnatural. How many natural and normal gigawatts of dirty power are being pumped into the stadium where the rock concert is taking place? Mid-Bass slam is in the 40Hz to 80Hz range. What complex, decaying frequencies does the sound of a thunder clap comprise. Is this same event fifteen seconds away (~3mi) in the unrestrained environment of the mountains (lots of echo and reverb rolling into the distance) or right next to the protagonist as they heroically try to save the day with mood, flash, camera action (distractions) and micro-transient special effect sounds being reproduced in an uber expensive IMAX theater
; crash, boom, bang? How accurate is your DAC converter which takes life's natural sine wave and breaks it up into ones and zeros, exclaiming in the process that none of the sine waves properties have been lost in translation?
Oooookay, I admit, that's some good coffee. Boiled water, hand poured over fresh ground French Roast with no adulterations. Pure, simple, smooth, honest and lots of freaking caffeine.
With all the gestalt BS out of the way, onto reality; pick one, music or Home Theater for in my opinion, this decision makes all the difference in the world as to the who, what and why of putting a soul satisfying subwoofer based sound reproduction system together. Pick one and understand, it's all about the Benjamins and in my estimation, if one sets a budget and realistically triples or quadruples this stated budget, they'll be in the ballpark of their most reasonable expectations. If one thinks they're going get a $20,000.00 subwoofer system for $800.00 they're in for some major disappointment.
Just saying, based on a post of yours, a few posts back on the last page, if hiding at least four subs in a dedicated room, at both the back behind chairs and front behind an AT screen, you're into subwoofers I'm clueless about but I am seeing a subwoofer budget of up to $8,000.00 becoming a reality.
Think Subwoofers: Box Tops: "Soul Deep"
But then again, does one need to raise the roof to find their subwoofer bliss or are they doing nothing more then meeting some unknown person's ideal of how things should be and it's more about impressing the Jones' than one stopping and enjoying their system.
(the 49er's got robbed last year in the final not called pass interference. the officials, Baltimore and the world knows it)
(this year, I hope Jim's driven nature, if not already, won't break the spirit of the 49er's as this year, in my opinion, he's driven to the point of being a mad man and I'm afraid the players will suffer for it)
(today's game, coach Harbaugh to prospects: "In a nutshell, for some of you, there is no tomorrow."