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Got the Energy S10.3 sub and I love it for my media room. Want to add a 12'' to hit the other levels the 10'' misses. Between these subs (Or other suggestions if you got them) which one would you go with for just pure boom (Not an audiophile)

Polk Audio PSW Series PSW505 12" Powered Subwoofer
Bic-America F12-475Watt
JBL ES250PBK High-Performance 12-Inch Powered Subwoofer
Energy Energy Power 12 Sub 12-Inch Front Firing Rear Ported Subwoofer
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I'm looking for something very similar. The amps have known to fry on the JBL's. There have been negative reviews regarding both JBls and Energy here.

As far as the BiC versus psw505s, I am currenlty looking at both, and would probably get the f-12 over the 505 given the reviews here and on amazon if I were buying right now. Want to explore the market for a few more days for something better and (maybe) run into a special sale before purchasing.
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I would save up for the SVS PB-1000. 10" yes, but hits under 20hz with authority. Don't get too hung up on driver size.
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I would assume that there would be more failures on JBL and Energy due to more sales......well we all know what "ASSuME" means
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I'm looking for something very similar. The amps have known to fry on the JBL's. There have been negative reviews regarding both JBls and Energy here.

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Given that my situation is similar to yours, I thought I'd chime in here. I also have the Energy S10.3. I chose it after my Onkyo HTIB 10" sub wasn't cutting it (sad, I know). My research at the time showed that the S10.3 was one of the best budget subs available at the time. After hearing it, I was hooked - I'm now an official bass junkie smile.gif

I'm now considering an upgrade. What I found is for an appreciable difference, I will need to get into the next tier, likely an entry sub from SVS, Rythmik or PSA.

All this said to suggest that you move up rather than add a sub that's mediocre at best. Hope this helps.
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I'm pretty sure JBL has addressed the amp failure issue on the subs. I have had my ES150 for a while now and have had no issues.

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^They have...I currently have a es250 installed at one of my juke box locations and it gets driven hard daily. It has worked flawless and my all my customers seem to love it.
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In choosing a subwoofer, shouldn't you take into consideration what front speakers you are using, and try to match and compliment those? If you have Polk Monitors , I would use the Polk sub woofer, or if I have a really expensive speaker system I would splurge on an expensive subwoofer. On the other hand, It makes no sense to match a cheap speaker system with expensive subwoofer.
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I would save up for the SVS PB-1000. 10" yes, but hits under 20hz with authority. Don't get too hung up on driver size.

+1

I have a PSB Subsonic 5 and I narrowed my search down to the SVS PB1000 and Rythmic LV12-R. I ultimately ended up with the Rythmic for $70 more. The SVS was a very close 2nd place for me.
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On the other hand, It makes no sense to match a cheap speaker system with expensive subwoofer.

For movies, a sub is your best buddy. Your maximum budget should flow into buying a quality sub regardless of whatever speakers you are running. Even if one is running $20K speakers; they would badly struggle playing sub 30Hz LFE content at reference volume. I would really like to see those speakers taking on Pulse lab scene (centred at 16Hz) in access of 115dB without distortion.

Apart from that; no AVR can provide enough current to such speakers to handle sub 30Hz frequencies. An outboard amplifier is imperative jacking the cost further up. A quality subwoofer is the cheapest solution.

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