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Time for an update, new card calc'd attached.....I'm gettin' there.
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Time for an update, new card calc'd attached.....I'm gettin' there.
You are in a large room like I am. I like the addition of the Clarks, it will save you the headaces of a gazillion sub, lol.
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Time for an update, new card calc'd attached.....I'm gettin' there.
I think you fat fingered the ULF calculator somewhere...

Here's what I calculated your ULF Card to be:

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I don't believe we have many (if any) RA Home Theaters or new Captivator 1400 theaters on the ULF charts yet...

Come join and post your ULF cards!
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Any data on the Mini Marty which is just a tad bit smaller than the full Marty? I will finished the second Mini Marty this week.
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Any data on the Mini Marty which is just a tad bit smaller than the full Marty? I will finished the second Mini Marty this week.
No, but would like to get the Marty's on here.

If anyone can run a sim comparing to the SI in a sealed 4cf box (same enclosure size as data-bass), I can estimate.
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Why a seal SI box since the Marty and Mini Marty are ported? I will download WinDis and see how far I get trying to do a sim.
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Why a seal SI box since the Marty and Mini Marty are ported? I will download WinDis and see how far I get trying to do a sim.
The ULF score card is based on the SI HT18D2 in a sealed box. See first post here.
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Why a seal SI box since the Marty and Mini Marty are ported? I will download WinDis and see how far I get trying to do a sim.
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The ULF score card is based on the SI HT18D2 in a sealed box. See first post here.
As coolrda said...

If you run both the si sealed at the marty, I'll take the difference between sims to estimate what the marty would be relative to josh's testing of the si.
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Using the SI 18HT you gain 9 dB at 20hz, 12 dB at 16hz, and anything lower will be distortion as the x-max is off the charts so I did not take notice at the 12.5hz and 10hz. When I did all those sims it was based on the SI being able to reproduce 5hz at x-max sealed so if you HP the low stuff you will gain 3 dB on the sealed with double the power.
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Here's what I came up with using WinISD on WindowsXP. Red is MiniMarty, Blue is MartyCube and Yellow is Ref Sealed. The two Marty boxes were using data and subs listing on the Martysub FAQ.

Max SPL@1M Frequency 10/12.5/16/20/25/31.5/40/50

MiniMarty 89.3/99.4/112.4/115.5/116.6/117.4/117.9/118.3

MartyCube 87.6/97.1/104.5/109.1/112.7/115.4/117.1/117.9

Ref Sealed 94.5/98.2/102.3/105.8/109.1/112.2/114.7/116.3

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Thanks for the explanation guys. The main thing I was trying to accomplish was to increase the 15 Hz and up spl since I am still dealing with a large room. I am using the UM 18 in the Mini and full Marty subs. The full Marty will be around 20 ft. from the MLP.

My system does not incorporate nearfield and is a distributed bass system due to the room layout. One guy put some Infinity 12's behind his last role of seating. I will see how this performs before considering that option to take advantage of the PV from nearfield subs.

I will run the Mini and full Marty with port 1/4 port plugs in the slots at the bottom which is how I run the 2 other large vented UM 18 subs. This should give me just a wee bit of extension

Here are a couple of pic's of the full Marty that I just finished painting this AM and the Mini Marty next to my old Chase SS 18.1 box. The Mini is alinged on the right with the chase sub. It looks like I could almost put two of the Chase boxes in the Mini, lol.

I will run the Mini and full Marty with 1/4 of the port blocked at the bottom for a wee bit of extension. I have did this with the other large vented UM 18 subs.
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Here's what I came up with using WinISD on WindowsXP. Red is MiniMarty, Blue is MartyCube and Yellow is Ref Sealed. The two Marty boxes were using data and subs listing on the Martysub FAQ.

Max SPL@1M Frequency 10/12.5/16/20/25/31.5/40/50

MiniMarty 89.3/99.4/112.4/115.5/116.6/117.4/117.9/118.3

MartyCube 87.6/97.1/104.5/109.1/112.7/115.4/117.1/117.9

Ref Sealed 94.5/98.2/102.3/105.8/109.1/112.2/114.7/116.3

Thanks @coolrda !

What is the tune of the MiniMarty? How about the Marty Cube, or is that a sealed design?

Also, is the driver the SI in the Marty's or the UM18?
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Thanks for the explanation guys. The main thing I was trying to accomplish was to increase the 15 Hz and up spl since I am still dealing with a large room. I am using the UM 18 in the Mini and full Marty subs. The full Marty will be around 20 ft. from the MLP.

My system does not incorporate nearfield and is a distributed bass system due to the room layout. One guy put some Infinity 12's behind his last role of seating. I will see how this performs before considering that option to take advantage of the PV from nearfield subs.

I will run the Mini and full Marty with port 1/4 port plugs in the slots at the bottom which is how I run the 2 other large vented UM 18 subs. This should give me just a wee bit of extension

Here are a couple of pic's of the full Marty that I just finished painting this AM and the Mini Marty next to my old Chase SS 18.1 box. The Mini is alinged on the right with the chase sub. It looks like I could almost put two of the Chase boxes in the Mini, lol.

I will run the Mini and full Marty with 1/4 of the port blocked at the bottom for a wee bit of extension. I have did this with the other large vented UM 18 subs.
You've definitely got the disease sir... Well done!
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Thanks @coolrda !

What is the tune of the MiniMarty? How about the Marty Cube, or is that a sealed design?

Also, is the driver the SI in the Marty's or the UM18?
Copied from @chalugadp 's post

Martycube
volume = 4.75 c.f. , tuning=20hz SI HT18

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volume = 9.0 c.f. , tuning=18hz Ultimax 18
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I can't believe its been two and a half weeks. Healing up nicely and I got a ton of stuff done including some stuff I didn't plan on fixing. So tomorrow starts phase two which is cool because it includes theater work. Anyway I got in some playtime today. Lots of VSensor testing and more importantly the sub relocate as 4x15's will be placed under the screen. The front subs were relocated to their permanent home at the rear.



And EoT before .......



and after, a few db down.

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Heres a few more before and afters.









Looking at the LogPSD we see gains of 7/13/4/7/2 units(db) respectively at 10/15/20/25/30hz. Apparently the front rear arrays were interacting causing the 15hz null. So the huge gain at 15hz is a combination of null removal and near field placement, not one or the other. The other frequencies fall in line with what you would figure on if you co locate subs and double the numbers.

How does this feel? Like a physical assault on the body. It feels like 3x the TR or more. Approaching 1g@10hz combined with the pressure I'm feeling is lunacy. Make no mistake, I'm not giving it back, but, its more that anyone could stand for more than 10 mins. Jupiter Ascending was brutal. Course theres always the I wonder what that would feel like. This is the first time I can say my system sounds balanced regarding TR and SPL quantity. Spl and pressure has always dominated. But no longer. More to come.

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some data from @markymiles who has just dropped in a pair of 1260w (in ~2.5-3ft3 sealed I think) behind his sofa while he waits for his UXL-18 to arrive, no other subs in the room at all. I think that shows about +/- 0.5g peak which is pretty nice going.

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some data from @markymiles who has just dropped in a pair of 1260w (in ~2.5-3ft3 sealed I think) behind his sofa while he waits for his UXL-18 to arrive, no other subs in the room at all. I think that shows about +/- 0.5g peak which is pretty nice going.

The new data is greatly welcomed. Thanks @markymiles . Great performance out of a popular sub around here. It makes you wonder wants the point of placing subs anywhere but nearfield.

I mentioned this before but might add that if your making a test run with EoT clip, pause the clip at the 20 sec mark. Set VS to this.



Then start the VS and then the clip when delay zeros. This will give you 3 sec bookends on the 14 sec clip. This helps with the limited display of our devices used.

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Yeah understood re the measuring. I didn't even know about this thread which is why matt posted it here. Wish I had known as it was mostly guesswork on the app.


Is this better? Played it a touch louder, I think it's getting near the limit.
















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Yeah understood re the measuring. I didn't even know about this thread which is why matt posted it here. Wish I had known as it was mostly guesswork on the app.


Is this better? Played it a touch louder, I think it's getting near the limit.















Much better, nicely done. I'll add it to the database. What phone/PED are you using?
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I think you fat fingered the ULF calculator somewhere...

Here's what I calculated your ULF Card to be:

While I have no doubt in my abilities to fat finger....where's my Epik Empire in your calc? Isn't that .7 of an SI? I did think the totals in mine looked too good but would have to go look at my first calc again....

NM, just looked at that 3.0 in the 10hz column for a sec and looking back at my first card think the fat fingering goes back to that one.... Back to building subs....

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New Ported 18s ULF Shootout...

Look about right?

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The numbers for the Mini Marty look good. Next, numbers for the full Marty. I was not expecting a bump in the 10 and 12.5 Hz area but, it does not hurt. I can say that there is a very noticeable difference between the full and Mini Marty.
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The numbers for the Mini Marty look good. Next, numbers for the full Marty. I was not expecting a bump in the 10 and 12.5 Hz area but, it does not hurt. I can say that there is a very noticeable difference between the full and Mini Marty.
Don't forget though, I didn't model with an HPF. The Marty's are perfect scenerio max SPL or if there was a dynamic limiter that tracked xmax. In the real world an HPF will limit extension. Thats one of a several different variables present with resonant systems. You can change box volume, raise or lower tune, run a wide variance of wattages and different drivers. It may be more appropriate to input wattages and the specific freq/slope of your Marty system before Dom posts an update. @LTD02 has a good handle on these and would be a good source, as well. Anyway, if you what to give me your Full Marty, with the details mentioned above Derrick, I'll run them.
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Thanks coolrda. I am us the Dayton UM 18's with the Mini and full Marty. I will stuff the vent 25 to 33%. This way I won't use a hpf. It should lower performance 1 or 2 db a bit but, also provide enough damping to protect the driver. All the vented subs have a HS filter at 16 Hzan. I have done this with my other large vented UM 18 subs for the last few years safely.

The full Marty is 11.5 cu ft. I could not copy and paste the UM 18 TS parameter but here is the link:http://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/...spec-sheet.pdf

This should be as close as we can get with the UM 18 since I won't be sending these to Josh Ricci. I am thinking with the equivalent of 3 Mini Marty's and one full Marty that the 15 Hz and up will be much stronger. I also have dual driver UM 18's in the HT and tranducers in the seating. So, I am not looking for anything much lower than 15 Hz. Thanks again!

Dom would have to redo all the vented subs if he includes watts/freq slope and other data. The current way keeps with the the intent of the database since everything is measured the same. It will be interesting to read how he veiws things. Consistentcy in this ongoing study is paramout to keep the information useful.

Good numbers will ensure the database integrity!

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I posted this in another thread and I should have posted it here.

Here is what I got. My bass is really hot and I have my theater on a suspended floor that violently shakes fortunately. You can stand in the middle of the room and feel the flow moving. I love it!







Here is my bass response in my room and you can see that I run it about 15db hot.
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I posted this in another thread and I should have posted it here.

Here is what I got. My bass is really hot and I have my theater on a suspended floor that violently shakes fortunately. You can stand in the middle of the room and feel the flow moving. I love it!







Here is my bass response in my room and you can see that I run it about 15db hot.
When you get a chance go into settings/units and switch from m/s to g's then repost. You don't have to retest as it'll update.
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