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I love them but like the RExxx Ricci tested, the enclosure is too small and to create the low end they can they need a bigger box.
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That's with mic+SC corrections applied?

You have no output above 30hz, what's up with that?
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That is a too small of an enclosure mixed with an inductance hump. The good part is I can bring down the 10-30hz and be flat to reference anyways. If you don't do that it is boomy as hell. When I bring down that peak I am flat from 6-100hz.
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It looks like a lot to bring down MK. I may be different from a lot of people because I don't like using over two to three filter under 60 Hz. How many will you need to use and what type of Q in the PEQ? I usually tolerate a 5-7 db+/- FR. This type of FR curve may result in some loudness in the mix above 30 Hz that is not objectionable in my large room.

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I used 5 cuts. Pretty simple and still enough headroom. The reason is the small enclosure creates a hump on top of the inductance peak. The 8 drivers model in a 490 cubic foot box or IB, they are in 178 cubes. If you model these in my size box and then compare them in a proper IB you can see I lose lots of sensitivity down low which IB drivers are designed for. I still get away having the best bass ever but these drivers are not being utilized properly. They still sound awesome though. I will throw in the stereo integrity drivers in the Wall and see how they measure to compare. It should have a fat bottom end which I am looking for but I can fit 12 drivers if need be or 8 more robust drivers made for 24 cubes each. I need semi IB drivers.
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Just curious, why did you choose the IB3 drivers if going into the build you knew you were severely limiting their low end performance by putting them in a enclosure 1/3 of the recomended space?
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You, my friend, are definitely a subaholic and a real one!
And here i thought I was a subaholic
Ummm, ^^^this. MK, you've got one strong strain of the upgradeitus infection.

Still not sure why you're upgrading though?

You've stated that you had the best bass/low end ever with this setup.

I know you're not using these to their potential, but will replacing them get you more? For example, couldn't it be possible that 8 IB drivers in an undersized box would be the same output or more as 4 FTW21 in an optimal size box? I just used that as an example, but you get the picture.

Have you sim'd 8 IBs in your size box, and compared it to other subs that fits your box better to see if that would be the case?
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