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I already have dual SVS PC12pluses to handle deep crawling bass biggrin.gif

Just would like to ask your recommended subwoofers to hadle those chest pounding bass. I would like to feel those gun shots, explosions, etc on the chest, haha...

Thinking of going dual also for the midbass subwoofer.
Budget is around $3,800

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dual rythmik f25's

or the new seaton subm F2+ master/slave combo.
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HSU has a dedicated Mid bass subwoofer
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which is pointless
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Experiment

If you have an EQ, try to insert the EQ between the sub out and the subwoofer, reduce the 40 hz and below and boost the 60 to 80 hz .

Will try this later with my setup, as my sub has a single band parametric EQ, will try to boost 70 hz by 3DB
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It is ??? You know you can not leave it at just that smile.gif

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Is DIY an option, Louie, I think its time for the TC LMS 5400,smile.gif Anthony can make the box, You can get the driver and amp at Parts express
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Is DIY an option, Louie, I think its time for the TC LMS 5400,smile.gif Anthony can make the box, You can get the driver and amp at Parts express

What amp is recommended to drive that 18" beast sir qguy? smile.gif
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What amp is recommended to drive that 18" beast sir qguy? smile.gif

Check out the projects here, they list down what they use to drive the beast. keep tissue paper handy smile.gif
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1104368/master-index-of-diy-subwoofer-projects

For comparison, you can check out
http://www.data-bass.com/systems
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Just would like to ask your recommended subwoofers to hadle those chest pounding bass. I would like to feel those gun shots, explosions, etc on the chest, haha...

I think your current setup is good enough for chest slam (30Hz-50Hz). Mid bass is the region an octave above 80Hz.

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Since when was "good enough" acceptable in this forum ?

I believe the TS had 2 other sealed subwoofers for a total of 4, I think those 2 got sold to make way for the new subs smile.gif
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I think your current setup is good enough for chest slam (30Hz-50Hz). Mid bass is the region an octave above 80Hz.
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Check out the projects here, they list down what they use to drive the beast. keep tissue paper handy smile.gif
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1104368/master-index-of-diy-subwoofer-projects

For comparison, you can check out
http://www.data-bass.com/systems

Great!!! Will look into this(with tissue on hand) haha...
Many thanks smile.gif
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Since when was "good enough" acceptable in this forum ?

You are right....bass is never enough smile.gif. I was just pointing out the chest slam area. PC12 Ultra are very much in business in that frequency region.

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Experiment

If you have an EQ, try to insert the EQ between the sub out and the subwoofer, reduce the 40 hz and below and boost the 60 to 80 hz .

Will try this later with my setup, as my sub has a single band parametric EQ, will try to boost 70 hz by 3DB

Sir qguy,
Do you think this will work as PEQ for the LMS Ultra 5400?
behringer fbq1000

And thinking of using the Behringer EP2000 to power the beast... biggrin.gif

Or will the Crown XTi 1002 will also work as both amp and EQ?

Thanks smile.gif
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Do you think this will work as PEQ for the LMS Ultra 5400?
behringer fbq1000

It will work just fine; but the lowest HPF you can set will be 20Hz on this unit. But a lot of people around here circumvent it by applying a combination of shelf and other filters.

Crown XTi 1002 can't drive LMS 5400 to full potential; same goes for Berry ep2000. iNuke 6000 DSP and EP4000 will pretty much be the ticket. If you go for iNuke 6000 DSP, it has very powerful signal processing. Will save you money and you won't need fbq1000.

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if you want more midbass then change the entire subsystem. mixing ported with sealed will present a new set of issues in its own. Some have done it successfully but I wouldnt do it.

With the budget you listed, I would sell the Pluses and pick up a pair Rythmik F25's, Seaton F2's, or JTR S2's. Any of these options would Out class those SVS offerings everywhere in the FR and have tremendous amounts of mid-bass slam.
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Just would like to ask your recommended subwoofers to hadle those chest pounding bass. I would like to feel those gun shots, explosions, etc on the chest, haha...
The frequency bandwidth where that occurs is primarily from 40 to 70Hz, which any good subwoofer has no problem with. If your subs are adequate in the deep lows they should be more than adequate an octave higher. There's no need to have a separate speaker to handle that bandwidth. The key to feeling those frequencies is volume, as in at least 105dB at the listening position. I can see no reason why your current subs wouldn't deliver that, unless your seating position is 30 feet away, or you don't have the subs properly placed to smooth room modes, or not correctly EQ'd to deliver the goods. OTOH if you're only running at moderate volume levels you're not going to get chest pounding. Real gunshots and explosions don't occur at 85dB.

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Just got an awesome deal on a pre-owned JL Fathom F212...
Less than the price of a brandnew F113!!!
Decided to take the plunge biggrin.gif
Also sold my dual SVS PC12plus and now saving up for the PC13-Ultra, hopefully next year smile.gif



Man!!! This beast is awesome!!! eek.gif
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That has to be the smallest diffuser I have ever seen
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