136 dB at 20 Hz? New Magico QSub..for the 1% of the 1%! - Page 6 - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #151 of 160 Old 03-08-2014, 10:01 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Bill Fitzmaurice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 9,321
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 1220
Quote:
Originally Posted by blazar View Post

They have no reason to lie...
I can think of 36 thousand reasons why. And yes, they are lying, big time, by about 20dB. eek.gif

Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design

The Laws of Physics aren't swayed by opinion.
Bill Fitzmaurice is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #152 of 160 Old 03-09-2014, 01:12 PM
AVS Special Member
 
blazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 2,254
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
Liked: 239
It is interesting why they would post numbers that are REALLY easy to check in actual performance. The magico q7's measurements seemed quite linear on one review I read and that speaker matched their claims.

This most awesome subwoofer in the universe claim is so easy to substantiate , it seems silly to put their reputation on the line...

Anyone buying a 36k consumer sub either a) doesnt care about money and simply want the "best" and doesn't even know what that means... Or b) has exacting audiophile standards and expects the product to meet the advertised claims during measurements.

I would think they sell a LOT of magico through magazine reviews and whatnot since most people (including rich people) likely never heard these speakers and very few have a dealer near them. To a company like that, I would think reputation is everything.

I do agree the figure sounds ludicrous... Just seems like an odd claim.

Blazar!
blazar is offline  
post #153 of 160 Old 03-09-2014, 01:34 PM
AVS Special Member
 
lovinthehd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: OROR
Posts: 6,331
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 83 Post(s)
Liked: 726
Quote:
Originally Posted by blazar View Post

It is interesting why they would post numbers that are REALLY easy to check in actual performance. The magico q7's measurements seemed quite linear on one review I read and that speaker matched their claims.

This most awesome subwoofer in the universe claim is so easy to substantiate , it seems silly to put their reputation on the line...

Anyone buying a 36k consumer sub either a) doesnt care about money and simply want the "best" and doesn't even know what that means... Or b) has exacting audiophile standards and expects the product to meet the advertised claims during measurements.

I would think they sell a LOT of magico through magazine reviews and whatnot since most people (including rich people) likely never heard these speakers and very few have a dealer near them. To a company like that, I would think reputation is everything.

I do agree the figure sounds ludicrous... Just seems like an odd claim.

What reputation does Magico actually have, though? Personally it seems they cater to those with more money than sense....

lovinthehd is online now  
post #154 of 160 Old 03-09-2014, 01:59 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Bill Fitzmaurice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 9,321
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 1220
Quote:
Originally Posted by blazar View Post

I do agree the figure sounds ludicrous... Just seems like an odd claim.
It could be done, with corner placement in a 10x12 foot room. But that's not how speaker SPLs are measured. It's like claiming a 350HP V6 car can get 80MPG...driving down a 30% grade with a 50 MPH tailwind. rolleyes.gif
Scott Simonian likes this.

Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design

The Laws of Physics aren't swayed by opinion.
Bill Fitzmaurice is offline  
post #155 of 160 Old 03-09-2014, 02:11 PM
Member
 
jonfitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 144
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 14
$36,000 for a black matte finish? Meh.
jonfitch is offline  
post #156 of 160 Old 03-09-2014, 03:40 PM
AVS Special Member
 
A9X-308's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Australia; now run by adults.
Posts: 5,186
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Liked: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by blazar View Post

Or b) has exacting audiophile standards and expects the product to meet the advertised claims during measurements.
Measurements are an anathema to audiophiles: most would rather not know and simply believe the hype. Happens all the time with all sorts of audio products. It seems my previous question to you has been answered in the affirmative.
A9X-308 is offline  
post #157 of 160 Old 03-09-2014, 03:43 PM
Advanced Member
 
dsrussell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Corona, CA.
Posts: 677
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 97 Post(s)
Liked: 261
Quote:
Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

What reputation does Magico actually have, though? Personally it seems they cater to those with more money than sense....

Magico has an excellent reputation in the ultra high-end audio speaker market. You know as well as I that it has nothing to do with sense, and everything to do with money. I suspect most people think that we here on AVS have a lot more money than sense. Perhaps they are right smile.gif. It's all relative. There is something out there to please almost everyone's taste and pocketbook, be it a few hundred dollars or a few million. We had a similar discussion here on the Wilson Audio "Thor's Hammer".
dsrussell is online now  
post #158 of 160 Old 03-09-2014, 04:43 PM
AVS Special Member
 
jbrown15's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Vancouver B.C.
Posts: 5,125
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 311 Post(s)
Liked: 734
I've said it before, anyone buying this sub basically has a crap load of F U money....lol

My Gear:

JTR Noesis 228HT (LCR)
Axiom Audio QS8 surrounds
Sherbourn PA 7-350
Pioneer VSX-21TXH
JVC RS45
Falcon Screens FVHD105
Dual PSA XS30's (gone but not forgotten)
jbrown15 is online now  
post #159 of 160 Old 03-09-2014, 04:52 PM
AVS Special Member
 
shadyJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 6,379
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 82 Post(s)
Liked: 451
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

I've said it before, anyone buying this sub basically has a crap load of F U money....lol

+1 this. This has nothing to to with performance, and not even much to do with appearance. This is pure status symbol.
shadyJ is online now  
post #160 of 160 Old 03-09-2014, 04:58 PM
AVS Special Member
 
blazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 2,254
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
Liked: 239
On another note... The magico "ultimate" horn loaded speaker. Besides the aesthetics which not everyone will like...

Avantgarde acoustics (speakers I own) have been doing horn speakers for a couple of decades and do a great job producing what is likely near the limit of what a horn is capable of. There are several other reputable horn manufacturers.

I have little doubt that the magico ultimate III sounds great... All large horn speakers have a "big" sound and very exciting to listen to when implemented well.

I wonder if some Dubai or Saudi sheik will just shell out the dough for those ... Just because he can.

I would be shocked if an Avantgarde Trio setup wouldn't sound more coherent with a much wider horn loaded frequency range?

And I'm sure most people already think avantgarde's are overpriced (which they basically are).

Blazar!
blazar is offline  
Reply Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off