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Looking for a small sub to be used with a computer setup, it needs to be musical as it will be strictly for music, budget it 500 greenbacks. Thanks

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Look at this Dayton sealed 12" kit. It's just a bit over $500 and is using a very sturdy driver and a good amplifier. A little bit of assembly is needed but it is very easy, just watch that video on the product page. That thing would hit pretty hard for a computer subwoofer.
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When you say small, now small is small.

Subwoofers are kinda funny. In general, the smaller they are, the worse their output to the point where the output is so anemic, one is better served getting high end speakers.

What are your expectations out of this single computer related subwoofer?

Is this going in a closed bedroom or will it sit next to an office desk in a kitchen area?

With a five hundred dollar budget, in an enclosed space such as a bedroom, one would be well served with by a SVS, SB1000 and in if a larger open space, one would be well served using a SVS, PB-1000.
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I would check out some of velodyne offerings...they have several compact subs that should fit the bill. For a computer sub its not like you need xv30 bass(im guessing)?

http://velodyne.com/special-offers.html?p=1
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SVS SB-1000 ($499, shipped):
- 12" driver
- 300W RMS amp
- 24-260Hz +/-3dB
- 13" x 13" x 13"
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Thanks guys, my room isnt big only 10 x 12, and the sub would be neirfield or about 4 to 5 feet away, so i dont need anything super powerful, and i wont be listening to loud alot.

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im gonna get a pair of Airmotiv 4's so i will need a sub with them.

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The SVS SB-1000 sounds perfect for your setup.
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Ok thanks i keep going back and fourth between the PB and SB, i like the smaller size of the SB, but the power of the PB. HUMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You could always just hold off until your Triax shows up and try it in the tiny room!...lol

It would almost be like an experiment, you could pretend to be one of those circus guys that loads himself into a tiny box packed with dynamite and then blows it up!....lol

At least that's what I'm picturing in my head with a Triax in a room that size. biggrin.gif
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Ok thanks i keep going back and fourth between the PB and SB, i like the smaller size of the SB, but the power of the PB. HUMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Small, 10 X 12 foot room, music only, computer use. IMHO the SB-1000 is exactly right.

In the September issue of Sound&Vision magazine, smaller sealed subs were favored over larger vented subs FOR MUSIC.

The review is supposed to be on-line at Sound&Vision.com but I don't know if it up yet.
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Here is a link to the Sound&Vision test of 5 subs.

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/review-800-subwoofers

The $500 SB-1000 is the right choice.
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Ok thanks i keep going back and fourth between the PB and SB, i like the smaller size of the SB, but the power of the PB. HUMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's a matter of functionality.

PB for large spaces.

SB for smaller (intement) sealed spaces.

(horses for courses)
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Thanks guys for the help, do you think the Klipsch RW-12D will have more output? THANKS

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No.

There is no hope. The RW-12d is the best in class for it's price point. As you go up in price with ID manufactures such as Hsu, SVS, PSA and Rythmik, the buyer will be getting what they're pay for.

The RW-12d, at it's price point, is the forum standard. At the next price point, the Rythmik, LV12R is the forum standard. In the end, it's all about the Benjamins and how many of them you have to throw at the problem. Unfortunately, there are no work arounds and there aren't any hidden gems waiting to be discovered.

With a $500.00 budget, a solid recommendation would be to increase your budget a bit, buy a Rythmik, LV12R and be done with it.

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Thanks BeeMan458, im set on the SB-1000 when i get the funds, i was just trying to see hoe much output the SB-1000 had vs the RW-12D, as i used to have 2 of them in my HT system.

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Thanks BeeMan458, im set on the SB-1000 when i get the funds, i was just trying to see hoe much output the SB-1000 had vs the RW-12D, as i used to have 2 of them in my HT system.

And then there's depth of extension. One should set their sights on a minimum goal of 20Hz at +/-3dB vs the rest of the graph. You can fer-get-about-that goal with a RW-12d. If doing a single subwoofer, I would recommend looking at the PB-1000, opposed to the SB-1000 as you'd be getting both, output and extension.
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Thanks guys, my room isnt big only 10 x 12, and the sub would be neirfield or about 4 to 5 feet away, so i dont need anything super powerful, and i wont be listening to loud alot.

I recently got the SB-1000. Using it in a similar desktop setup listening situation with a good setup

ODAC->Schiit Asgard 2 headphone amp/pre-amp->SB-1000->Indeed TA2021 t-amp->Ascend Acoustics CBM-170 SE speakers.

I previously had a Mirage Prestige S10 ported sub in this setup (same as the Energy VSW10) and this is much better sounding. Sounds extremely accurate. Has plenty of low end extension for all kinds of music (unless you are in to bassy organ music trying to get that 16hz impact--lol), and it is surprisingly powerful for its size, more than enough output for this kind of use.

And while the RW-12d has more output, the SB-1000 will definitely be more accurate than the RW-12d. I have an Outlaw LFM-1 EX (a better ported sub than the RW-12d), and the SB-1000 is a better sounding sub. In fact, you might be disappointed with the RW-12d with music after this. I can't see how you would be disappointed.biggrin.gif
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im gonna get a pair of Airmotiv 4's so i will need a sub with them.

I've heard of a couple of other people who have used the SB-1000 with the Airmotiv 4s and really liked it. Having heard the Airmotivs myself, I'm sure you'd be very happy. One of the good things is that the SB-1000 has an 80hz RCA line out high pass filter pass through. That's great to use with the Airmotiv 4s, because I thought that was their weak spot--the lower bass that they did put out was not as accurate as I would have lited. So you use that and set the adjustable low pass on the SB-1000 to 80hz to match.

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And then there's depth of extension. One should set their sights on a minimum goal of 20Hz at +/-3dB vs the rest of the graph. You can fer-get-about-that goal with a RW-12d. If doing a single subwoofer, I would recommend looking at the PB-1000, opposed to the SB-1000 as you'd be getting both, output and extension.

You should reserve judgement until you hear the SB-1000 and try it out with music. Very, very little music would benefit from that extra extension, and the SB-1000 sounds extremely good. When I called SVS, they had the opportunity to talk me out of the SB-1000 into the PB-1000, and I even suggested upgrading to the SB12-NSD. Told me that the SB-1000 is perfect for this kind of setup, and that I wouldn't get any significant additional SQ benefit out of the SB12, just mainly a little more output.

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Thanks for the input, yea the RCA out with the highpass at 80hz sealed the deal with me.

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And then there's depth of extension. One should set their sights on a minimum goal of 20Hz at +/-3dB vs the rest of the graph. You can fer-get-about-that goal with a RW-12d. If doing a single subwoofer, I would recommend looking at the PB-1000, opposed to the SB-1000 as you'd be getting both, output and extension.



Josh has a small sealed 10x12 room and you recomend a ported sub? This has got to be a first, especially since you favor sealed and tend to recomend them even in rooms 6000^3 + tongue.gif. The SB1000 will extend deeper with room gain over the PB1000. SVS ported subs utilize a 4th order hpf which will roll off at a rate of 48db per octave(atleast the pb-1000 & pb12nsd). Besides that, how much extension is needed with a computer system? I would think music and media would be the primary source content. Josh has a Triax on order for HT to passify his LFE needs.

That being said either will work well, I would probably go with the smaller sealed sub in this application. smile.gif
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Thanks Basshead, yea i should get room gain to 20hz, i think this is a perfect little sub for me as i wont have alot of room up here.

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