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Hello,

I was wondering what sub woofer would be the best choice for me since i will be in dorm room in college. The sub is for music about 90% music and i want to get that power feeling that loudness punch but im in a small room. So what sub should i go with ive seen alot of Polk audio and Bic F12 and many others but i dont know what to choose. Budget is a bit tight on this one at about $220 or less and i would prefer a LFE port or a RCA jack to connect to my computer with.

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I would look at 8" or 10" sub in that price range.
http://www.crutchfield.com/g_12300/Powered-Subwoofers.html

http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/m8.html
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Check out this Velodyne 12" normally 699.00.

http://velodyne.com/special-offers/vdr-12-subwoofer-refurbished.html

30.00 over budget but I bet it would be a much better option then the 505 or F12. Velodyne has great sound quality.

If you think thats too much then check out this 10" normally 399.00

http://velodyne.com/special-offers/starfire-10-refurbished.html
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dorm room. be kind to your neighbors and no sub.
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Check out this Velodyne 12" normally 699.00.

http://velodyne.com/special-offers/vdr-12-subwoofer-refurbished.html

30.00 over budget but I bet it would be a much better option then the 505 or F12. Velodyne has great sound quality.

Oh, yeah. That could destroy a dorm room if turned up a lot biggrin.gif

But I agree. Good bet that is better sounding than the 505 or F12. Shipping weight is 60 lbs vs 48 on the Polk PSW505 and 40 on the BIC F12. Definitely seems like more sub for the money.

And you don't have to crank it up. But that extra power will be there should you ever move out of the dorm into a bigger space.

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Dayton sub1200 from parts express would be a great choice.

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So Polk PSW-110 or Bic America F12 for better music quality ?
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What kind (model) speakers/amp/source setup are you hooking this up to? You need to make sure that the sub will hook up with your setup. So give us details about your setup.

Also, I'd get this over the Polk PSW-110, given Jim's review and the one on Sound and Vision, assuming it has the connections you need:

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-subwoofer-reviews/67178-nxg-nx-bas-500-subwoofer-review.html
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/blog/2013/07/15/review-nxg-nx-bas-500-subwoofer

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So Polk PSW-110 or Bic America F12 for better music quality ?

the links I provided are better than both those options.
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the links I provided are better than both those options.

Nice thing about that VDR-12 you linked to is that I think it has a built in high pass filter in the RCA line outs. That could be useful with any setup that doesn't have an AVR.

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Hello,

I was wondering what sub woofer would be the best choice for me since i will be in dorm room in college

I don't know what kind of a subwoofer you'd call it, but if you want to have a lot of friends in the dorm, you'll invest that money in headphones or earphones. ;-)
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I don't know what kind of a subwoofer you'd call it, but if you want to have a lot of friends in the dorm, you'll invest that money in headphones or earphones. ;-)

+1. Don't be "that guy"

or use that money to buy booze for the co-eds... you'll get more enjoyment that way

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Well in my alcove i am living with a bunch of people who love music and bass (Next door neighbor has some sweet Bose 301) so im planning on building something good as well. currently im using Logitech Z623 off my computer and they are good but are lacking in the bass department
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Well in my alcove i am living with a bunch of people who love music and bass (Next door neighbor has some sweet Bose 301) so im planning on building something good as well. currently im using Logitech Z623 off my computer and they are good but are lacking in the bass department

So you still haven't told us what kind of speakers/amp setup you have? The Logitech Z623 won't work with a different sub, if that's what you were thinking. The sub powers those speakers.

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Ok so im building a whole different system. I would love to hook up the base to my computer (I have 7.1 channel computer audio on the motherboard which is an MSI Z87 MPOWER) and im looking for a cheap receiver that will have enough power for the speakers for a 2.1 channel system and thats it but its hard finding a receiver thats cheap that has an LFE port for the sub woofer. so no i do not have a setup at this time. i understand my computer speakers will not work with another sub but i was also wondering since i have a 3.5mm jack on the back thats meant for a sub woofer and i have a 3.5mm to RCA conversion adapter but im not sure that it will work for my application
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I tried that a couple of years ago. Windows doesn't output sound correctly if you try to use the subwoofer out on the sound card with 2.1. It only works right if you have 5.1 or 7.1 hooked up. Could be your card is different, though.

Accessories4less.com has factory refurbished/factory warrantied Onkyo, Denon, and Yamaha audio/video receivers. Good values there.

A 2 channel stereo receiver can also work with a sub, although being able to use the bass management in an AVR to set a higher crossover is a plus. With a 2 channel stereo receiver, you either

(a) Split the 2 channel output from your computer and run it to both the receiver and the sub (the sub needs left/right RCA inputs for this).
(b) With a receiver with A/B speaker outputs, run the B speaker outputs to a sub that has speaker level inputs.
(c) Get a sub with RCA inputs and outputs. Run the computer 2 channel output to the sub, then run the RCA output from the sub to the receiver.

Some of these hookup methods above (a, c) also work for just a plain amplifier.

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Ok so i just ordered a Onkyo TX-8450 and am planning to go with a Polk PSW505 as a sub and Sony SB-3000 as speakers
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You might want to ask on the AVS speaker forum for a recommendation. The SB3000 are generally discouraged. Popular speakers in this price range are the Infinity Primus, Andrew Jones Pioneer, and Polk Monitor series.

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You might want to ask on the AVS speaker forum for a recommendation. The SB3000 are generally discouraged. Popular speakers in this price range are the Infinity Primus, Andrew Jones Pioneer, and Polk Monitor series.

Im not sure it matters Cel..the op starts this thread asking for advice when his mind evidently was already made up.
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I appreciate all the comments guys they are really helpful. i just purchased a Onkyo TX-8450 which was refurbished by the manufacture from Accessories4less.com (Thank You cel4145). I will probably purchase the Polk PSW505 as a sub woofer because it fits in my price range and is on amazon since i have some gift cards to use up. Now for the speakers i have not made up my mind just yet looking around but i do also like the Polk Audio TSi100 because they are the same price as Sony SB-3000 but im not to experienced with either.
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Newegg also carries the Polk Monitor series, which sound essentially the same as the TSi series. Sometimes Newegg runs specials. So before you buy, be sure to check and check and see if they are cheaper.

Amazon has the Infinity Primus P163 for $89 each. That's a pretty good price.

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yha im still very undecided since i only want to spend about $150 for a pair of speakers mainly to beat my neighbors that have a set of Bose 301 speakers
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yha im still very undecided since i only want to spend about $150 for a pair of speakers mainly to beat my neighbors that have a set of Bose 301 speakers

Go used, and you could probably definitely beat the pants of the Bose 301s. If you had a little more cash, accessories4less.com has some Boston towers that are $99 a piece that people have really liked smile.gif

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So whats the best speakers to get with my setup for 150$ a pair refurbished?
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I have no idea what's good refurbished at that price, but someone else might. If you want to really draw on the AVS community for finding the best deals on speakers, you are in the wrong forum. You need to be here. Start a thread over there. smile.gif

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yha im still very undecided since i only want to spend about $150 for a pair of speakers mainly to beat my neighbors that have a set of Bose 301 speakers

I do not think you can beat a pair of Bose 301's with any speaker thats less than 150.00. Now when Polk was running there 1/2 off sale 2 weeks ago then maybe. The 301 is one speaker that Bose did right...I get a discount on them since I am a Touch Tunes Jukebox operator( I believe around 190.00 a pair), which is Alot of speaker for that price.

Fwiw I had 2 PSW505's, if you want a sub thats a one note boomer then get it. However I like the JBL ES250 much better for accuracy and depth. If you are looking for a sub on amazon get the JBL. Before you read of the amp issues in the early reviews, it has been fixed ! I know the reviews on amazon for the 505 are great, but most do not have a clue what quality bass is suppose to sound like. I currently have 3 Power Sound Audio xv15's and imo the JBL sounds the closest to a Internet Direct sub out of all the Budget subs I have herd...and Thats 4 different Polk subs, Paradigm pdr10, Kenwood sigma servo10...Just so you know I am a Polk fan, I run a RTIA7, CSIA4, FXIA6 5.3 setup for my home theatre, so I am offering a unbiased opinion.
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Fwiw I had 2 PSW505's, if you want a sub thats a one note boomer then get it. However I like the JBL ES250 much better for accuracy and depth. If you are looking for a sub on amazon get the JBL. Before you read of the amp issues in the early reviews, it has been fixed ! I know the reviews on amazon for the 505 are great, but most do not have a clue what quality bass is suppose to sound like. I currently have 3 Power Sound Audio xv15's and imo the JBL sounds the closest to a Internet Direct sub out of all the Budget subs I have herd...and Thats 4 different Polk subs, Paradigm pdr10, Kenwood sigma servo10...Just so you know I am a Polk fan, I run a RTIA7, CSIA4, FXIA6 5.3 setup for my home theatre, so I am offering a unbiased opinion.

If basshead says the JBL is better than the PSW505, then it's better. He definitely knows a lot about subs smile.gif

So true that Amazon reviews are often not very helpful when it comes to subs. By reading Amazon reviews, one would think this is the best sub ever: http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-10-Inch-Monitor-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/
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So in your opinion what should i jet the JBL or the Polk for loud music listening in a small area. I care about those deep lows that you can really hear and shake the place and i dont really know that much about speakers.
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