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Hi, everyone. I am new to the forum, but have been lurking for a while.

I just wanted to get some input on subwoofer choice for a home theater I am piecing together. I currently purchased the Infinity Primus line (PC351 center, P363 towers L/R and P163BK for surrounds. ) I will be ordering a Pioneer Elite SC-61 to drive it all due to its 5-channels-driven test results. My missing piece is the subwoofer. So far, with everything I have read so far, I am leaning towards the HSU VTF-2 MK4 due to its extension. I will mainly be listening to movies with this system. My price range for a subwoofer is already stretched to its limits to get to the $500-$600 range.

My room size will be 14.5'x16.5' with a 10' ceiling. It will be closed on 3 sides and wide open on stage left.

What are everyone's thoughts on this subwoofer given the rest of my setup? Any suggestions to the contrary or advice? Thanks in advance.
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I think thats a great choice especially while its on sale. The only other subs to compare in that price range would be the Rythmik LV12 or SVS PB1000.
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I think thats a great choice especially while its on sale. The only other subs to compare in that price range would be the Rythmik LV12 or SVS PB1000.

Agreed. Seems no wrong choice there between those three smile.gif

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I think I would have to put the PB third on my list if it were my choice. I did try the PB once for kicks though. Imo the 10" driver is it's down-point.

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If you can go to $600, the lv12r is the sub to get.

The pb is a great little sub. Best up to $500 IMO. Not to mention you can get it for $450 in b stock wink.gif

The 10" driver is great for the size SVS was shooting for. If they went with a twelve inch, the size would be closer to the pb12-nsd and would eat into sales of the NSD.

For the same reason, I bet you won't see Rythmik sell a sealed version of the lv12r. It would cut into sales of the f12

The size of the pb was a big selling point for me. Even though the lv12 isn't THAT much bigger, I really want to stay as small as possible and every inch counts. I also didn't wan to have to deal with the rear port which would necessitate the lv12 being out further from the wall.

Different subs for different customers but like I said, if your ok with the size the lv12 is the one to get.

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The LV12R would be my pick, but the SVS and HSU are great options too.
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The 10" driver is great for the size SVS was shooting for. If they went with a twelve inch, the size would be closer to the pb12-nsd and would eat into sales of the NSD.

Agreed. SVS has said that the PB12 only has about 3db better output than the PB-1000. smile.gif

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I am trying to decide on the hsu vtf-15h or svs pb13 ultra. Any advice? Or is there another that is better for the price range?
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I am trying to decide on the hsu vtf-15h or svs pb13 ultra. Any advice?
For the price of the PB13-Ultra ($1,999, shipped), you can get two VTF-15Hs ($1,709 + $286 shipping). Do that. smile.gif
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I am trying to decide on the hsu vtf-15h or svs pb13 ultra. Any advice? Or is there another that is better for the price range?

From a sub to sub standpoint the ULTRA is the clear winner in which is the better sub. The VTF hangs in there pretty close (accept at 20hz) with the less expensive PC/PB-PLUS though. Looking at about $40 difference in cost going dual PC-PLUS over dual VTF’s.


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I am trying to decide on the hsu vtf-15h or svs pb13 ultra. Any advice? Or is there another that is better for the price?

So here are the choices I have been given

 

2 - HSU VTF-15H

2 - SVS PC12

 

Here is the setup I have:

 

1-Center JBL Studio 520C

2-Front JBL Studio 530

2-Surrounds JBL Studio 530

2-Back JBL Studio 210

 

So does this make a difference? Any new recommendations?

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Any new recommendations?
Depends.

1. What's your budget max?
2. How big is your room (l x w x h; open or sealed)?
3. Any subwoofer size or placement restrictions?
4. One sub only, or would you consider duals?
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So here are the choices I have been given

2 - HSU VTF-15H
2 - SVS PC12

Here is the setup I have:

1-Center JBL Studio 520C
2-Front JBL Studio 530
2-Surrounds JBL Studio 530
2-Back JBL Studio 210

So does this make a difference? Any new recommendations?

I would also look at the Rythmik' FV15HP...similar performance to the PB13U but at PB12+ prices. However SVS warranty is top notch and I think any of these subs would suit your needs.
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Considering duals and/or single with the option to buy another later. Budget right now is around $2k.

 

Room is open to the kitchen and dining area with tile floors.

 

15' x 20' x 15'

 

Placement is either right front or back left or right.

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+1 to basshead81's suggestion re. an FV15HP. Especially if you can buy one now and add a second one later on.

If $2K is the total budget, IMO go with dual VTF-15Hs.
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I would also look at the Rythmik' FV15HP...similar performance to the PB13U but at PB12+ prices. However SVS warranty is top notch and I think any of these subs would suit your needs.

Is it overkill to go with 2 - SVS PB13U's, buy one now and one later? 

 

Does anyone have the comparison for the FV15HP vs. PB13U?

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You can compare the two here (data-bass.com). The FV15HP is an exceptional performer, for quite a bit less money than the PB13-Ultra.
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I would also look at the Rythmik' FV15HP...similar performance to the PB13U but at PB12+ prices. However SVS warranty is top notch and I think any of these subs would suit your needs.



However, not PC-PLUS pricing at $1199 to your door..

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/FV15HP.html Add $140 shipping

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I think I have narrowed it down to either the 

 

PC13-Ultra-110
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FV15HP Direct Servo subwoofer
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I reviewed all the specs and have data on the SVS PB13 Ultra and the Rythmik FV15HP. I have nothing I can refer to except what the manufacturer has on the SVS PC13Ultra. 

Anyone have data on the SVS PC13U?

 

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Anyone have data on the SVS PC13U?


The PC-ULTRA is like 1dB less in the 15hz tune as apposed the PB-ULTRA at 20hz and bellow. That puts the PC-ULTRA right there with the Rythmik down to 16hz in the one port mode. Under 16, the Rythmik moves ahead but with only one port in action unless you put the ULTRA in the 10hz mode which you can not do with the Rythmik.

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However, not PC-PLUS pricing at $1199 to your door..

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/FV15HP.html Add $140 shipping

Correct I meant PC-13U pricing...good catch Steve!
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Correct I meant PC-13U pricing...good catch Steve!

No prob bass. When you said (however) I noticed latter I put my reply in the same context. I dunno if that was subliminal or what, but it could be construed I was coming across a little snarky which scouts honor was not my intention.

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No prob bass. When you said (however) I noticed latter I put my reply in the same context. I dunno if that was subliminal or what, but it could be construed I was coming across a little snarky which scouts honor was not my intention.

No no I know you better then that Steve....no worries smile.gif
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I have made the decision for the Rythmik based on price and http://www.data-bass.com/systems.
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I have made the decision for the Rythmik based on price and http://www.data-bass.com/systems.

Thanks for all the advice!

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I have made the decision for the Rythmik based on price and http://www.data-bass.com/systems.

It’s most generally one of the top five factors we/one considers as I’m sure you know.. Congrats on your decision. cool.gif

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