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Thought you guys would get a chuckle out of this article from AOL's "Daily Finance" regarding HDMI cables being a rip.
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One can get HDMI cords on Ebay for $3.50 delivered. And, 6 footers are very cheap, but even a 10 footer can be had for $3.50. They are an AV commodity at this point.
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Much like optical cables which are also AV commodities, and also sell for $3.50 delivered. Some of the cheapest optical cables are really thin, but still get the job done.
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Much like optical cables which are also AV commodities, and also sell for $3.50 delivered. Some of the cheapest optical cables are really thin, but still get the job done.
One of the reasons behind the development of digital transmission is how immune it is to RFI, EMI and signal losses, and how much less the demands are on wire quality. Those of you on non-HD cable TV should have noticed a huge improvement when analog was phased out in favor of digital transmission a few years back. But just as they did 30 odd years ago with speaker cables and interconnects and uber power cords the wire mountebanks saw HDMI cables as one more source for obscene profits, and since the public is almost universally ignorant of their shenanigans, they get away with it.

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One of the reasons behind the development of digital transmission is how immune it is to RFI, EMI and signal losses, and how much less the demands are on wire quality. Those of you on non-HD cable TV should have noticed a huge improvement when analog was phased out in favor of digital transmission a few years back. But just as they did 30 odd years ago with speaker cables and interconnects and uber power cords the wire mountebanks saw HDMI cables as one more source for obscene profits, and since the public is almost universally ignorant of their shenanigans, they get away with it.

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The most I will pay for cables is from Blue Jeans. I usually get everything from Monoprice though.

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They only have one left...

Get it quick!!!

http://www.coconut-audioshop.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HDMI65

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Get it quick!!!

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Damn it !!! I needed TWO !!!

I bought a few extras a while back JIC. I could sell you a few. I would only mark them up 100%. Send me your PayPal account and shipping info and I'll have them out to you tomorrow.

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This reminded me of this thread which was posted previous- http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable/dp/B000I1X6PM

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Much like optical cables which are also AV commodities, and also sell for $3.50 delivered. Some of the cheapest optical cables are really thin, but still get the job done.

The first optical cable I bought cost me $45, It was back in the late 90's and it was a good price at the time.
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The newest scam I love are expensive usb "audio" cables meant to improve the sound from a computer to a USB DAC: http://www.thecableco.com/Catalog/USB-Cable

My favorite from that list is the designer Crystal Cable Absolute Dream USB cable, $9000 eek.gif

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I have no understanding how folks can feel good about buying or selling cables at this price level. Maybe low esteem explains buying them and being a sociopath, explains selling them.

Doubt, being the most powerful sales tool, to me, ignorance can explain the first hundred dollars. We all want to have the best signal possible but after a hundred bucks everyone who has a hundred dollars to drop on a set of cables, expectedly has Google available and before the buy, is suppose to be doing their shopping research to ferret out the truth behind reality.
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I have no understanding how folks can feel good about buying or selling cables at this price level. Maybe low esteem explains buying them and being a sociopath, explains selling them.

I was thinking of selling some cables that are blessed by a Voodoo practitioner to remove sibilance from bad recordings


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I have no understanding how folks can feel good about buying or selling cables at this price level. Maybe low esteem explains buying them and being a sociopath, explains selling them.

Doubt, being the most powerful sales tool, to me, ignorance can explain the first hundred dollars. We all want to have the best signal possible but after a hundred bucks everyone who has a hundred dollars to drop on a set of cables, expectedly has Google available and before the buy, is suppose to be doing their shopping research to ferret out the truth behind reality.

I understand it exactly - it is the exact same people that start up mega-churches and ask for all of your money.
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There's a reason a tangle of cables looks like the FSM! For the best A/V experience, buy only the ones that have been touched by His Noodly Appendage! biggrin.gif
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I have no understanding how folks can feel good about buying or selling cables at this price level. Maybe low esteem explains buying them and being a sociopath, explains selling them.

That pillowcase full of cash no doubt helps soothe their conscience. I have said it before, I don't like fraud generally speaking, but in the audiophile business it's not all that bad. A fool and his money are parted, no big deal. If you want to pay $5k for a copper cable, you don't deserve your $5k anyhow. I say congrats to the guy who got someone to pay him $5k for a strand of copper, that was a hilarious prank. It becomes more of a problem when these con artists use pseudoscience to take advantage of desperate people who are sick or has a sick loved one.
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That pillowcase full of cash no doubt helps soothe their conscience. I have said it before, I don't like fraud generally speaking, but in the audiophile business it's not all that bad. A fool and his money are parted, no big deal. If you want to pay $5k for a copper cable, you don't deserve your $5k anyhow. I say congrats to the guy who got someone to pay him $5k for a strand of copper, that was a hilarious prank. It becomes more of a problem when these con artists use pseudoscience to take advantage of desperate people who are sick or has a sick loved one.

And most stuff ( almost anything and especially health related things or substances ) on midnight or almost any infomercial as well!



+1 the high end cable devotees never cease to amaze me they and the industry in general usually fail to provide any recognized scientific proof of the sonic benefits of expensive audiophool speaker or power cables .
A hospital grade power cord and outlet would be about the most exotic I would ever consider and they are not expensive at all .
as for speakers maybe terminated Belden wire or some inexpensive monoprice ,Blue Jeans or even terminated home depot household electrical cord !

Thats why I use ordinary (not expensive ) Amazon basics or Monoprice cables . Belden wire and Monoprice also have reasonably priced installer cabling for long runs and products specific to in wall runs . You can get a 2 pack 3 meter of Amazon Basics HDMI for about $9.00 all 6 or maybe 8 of mine are working just fine.



Here is good read on speaker cables from Roger Russell ,Former director of Director of Acoustic Research at McIntosh Audio labs . Some other interesting stuff there also
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