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Lol yea the day I pegged 130db on the spl meter pictures came crashing down off the walls. The wife was pissed whe she came home..so I put the gear up for a while and have just been enjoying the system at moderste levels. I just wanted to see some data on the capability of these subs because nobody posts that kind of info. I also plan on keeping this info logged that way if I ever bought new subs I will have some good data to compare to. Alot of times when we purchase new things there is always that Placebo effect that makes us think its better because its new.

130dbs is when things get fun, you should try WWZ grenade scene cranked up and see what happens eek.gif

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Um, damage!
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Um, damage!

Atleast the movie would be realistic, cleaning up the mess afterwards would suck biggrin.gif

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I hope you had some good hearing protection on when you did that... That is some seriously high SPL!






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I'm not Tom of course and this is not official, but from the response I got from him last week the 1st run of drivers is already done and accounted for.

The second shipment should be showing up at the end of this week. This is his response from 3 days ago:
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The second production run looks to be in 10-12 days. Sorry the news wasn't better Jarret. We are still pushing our driver vendor as much as possible----we are even over nighting the remaining components to him to make this happen as quickly as possible.
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I'm not Tom of course and this is not official, but from the response I got from him last week the 1st run of drivers is already done and accounted for.

The second shipment should be showing up at the end of this week. This is his response from 3 days ago:

I guess well probably see ours 1st or 2nd week of november. All I know is that when I get mine im knocking down some lite fixtures the first day smile.gif
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130dbs is when things get fun, you should try WWZ grenade scene cranked up and see what happens eek.gif

I did, I had to go through my canister lights in the ceiling and tighten the bulbs...they backed out the point they were flickering lol. I am going to replace them with led to free up another 360-400watts of power.
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Raynist, when you get a chance can you take a max spl sweep? I am curious to see compression characteristics between a standard 80-90db sweep and a max spl sweep. I also would like to see the output them beasts are generating. A basic 80-90db sweep that you posted is great for getting a idea of the subs frequency response, but it does not tell the whole story.

For example here are a couple graphs I took a while back when I only had dual XV15's





Top graph is a standard sweep and the bottom is max spl.

Aside from the peak(i took these measurements with no eq'ing), you can see the top graph is pretty much flat down to 15hz. when I run the max spl sweep I start to see some compression below 25hz, but its still maintains +/-3.5db from 15-25hz and 45-85hz.

Max output was 113.5db @ 15hz, 132db @ 32hz, 120.5db @60hz.
Avg. max output from 15-60hz = 122db. Which is dam close to what my spl meter would show. Actually with source content I could get another 2-3db(125db) of additional output since test tone material is much more demanding.

I since added a third XV15 to knock down the peak which it did. I plan on taking some new measurements soon when I get a chance. According to my spl meter I have pegged 130db on a few occasions, but on average 126-128db read out is what I get, with 116-117db around 15hz(test tone). I will update in the PSA thread to not clutter this thread. I am just trying to show you examples.

Looking Forward to seeing what those Beatly Triax's belt out down into the lower octaves. I am betting 115-117db @ 10hz.


If I get some time coming up when no one is home. I don't want to put my family through that!

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I did, I had to go through my canister lights in the ceiling and tighten the bulbs...they backed out the point they were flickering lol. I am going to replace them with led to free up another 360-400watts of power.

We watched the LED isle at Lowes and replaced all the bulbs in the house with $9 LED bulbs. Our chandelier alone went from 600w to 40w!

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I did, I had to go through my canister lights in the ceiling and tighten the bulbs...they backed out the point they were flickering lol. I am going to replace them with led to free up another 360-400watts of power.

Awesome! Now thats some nice low frequencies! Plus you have real good bass smoothing on top of everything being well measured and calibrated, I cant wait to be at that point.
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If I get some time coming up when no one is home. I don't want to put my family through that!

Ya I dont blame you...I dont turn it up loud unless I am home by myself also. Whenever you get a chance would be sweet!
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We watched the LED isle at Lowes and replaced all the bulbs in the house with $9 LED bulbs. Our chandelier alone went from 600w to 40w!

Its amazing the power savings that LED provide...the only reason I have not done it yet is because I am not sure which color to get. Any recomendations for HT led lighting?
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Its amazing the power savings that LED provide...the only reason I have not done it yet is because I am not sure which color to get. Any recomendations for HT led lighting?
My wife likes the warmer yellowish lighting but I like the cooler blueish lights.

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I am going to replace them with led to free up another 360-400watts of power.

We just recently went with LED and they're killer. A bit expensive but we found that at our electric rate, LED bulbs pay for themselves in saved electricity over an eight month time frame and then it's all gravy. In our case, it worked out to a savings of approximately $28.00 a month.

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Its amazing the power savings that LED provide...the only reason I have not done it yet is because I am not sure which color to get. Any recomendations for HT led lighting?

You can get three kinds of light color; tungsten, white and daylight. We bought the Cree lights available at Home Depot in 40watt and 60watt equivalent. Tungsten for regular lamps in living room and bedrooms. White for reading and daylight for closets and bathrooms so my wife could choose cloths and put on makeup. We purchased candle lights at Lowes for curio cabinets in 25w equivalent in tungsten color because that's what we're use to.

I can't find my conversion sheet where I converted from watts to lumens as LED is expressed in lumens of light produced as opposed to regular tungsten lighting which is expressed in watts used.

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We just recently went with LED and they're killer. A bit expensive but we found that at our electric rate, LED bulbs pay for themselves in saved electricity over an eight month time frame and then it's all gravy. In our case, it worked out to a savings of approximately $28.00 a month.

I have the same thing, those spiral looking bulbs with the faint blue tint in them. They really lite the place up with a modern, vibrant look, I love them! It reminds me of the HID look in some of the modern car headlights, more brite and uses less power.
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The spiral looking bulbs might be "compact fluorescent lights" or CFLs. Either which way, CFL or LED, one is using a lot less electricity and that translate into a major savings at the price of local, PUC regulated electricity rates.

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I have the same thing, those spiral looking bulbs with the faint blue tint in them. They really lite the place up with a modern, vibrant look, I love them! It reminds me of the HID look in some of the modern car headlights, more brite and uses less power.

Those are not LED, those are flourescent. LED is even more efficient.
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Those are not LED, those are flourescent. LED is even more efficient.
and is supposed to last longer too. I believe they have passed a law in some states that the florescents are illegal now... As the contain Mercury.

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Those are not LED, those are flourescent. LED is even more efficient.

Oops, the spiral ones was what I bought, they were pricey but way briter. I must not of noticed the leds then, thats weird.
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Oops, the spiral ones was what I bought, they were pricey but way briter. I must not of noticed the leds then, thats weird.

Not really when you consider LEDs are just coming into vogue.
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Not really when you consider LEDs are just coming into vogue.

I got mine at walmart and I really liked the look they gave to my room. So much briter and vibrant, offcourse with the lights off its pitch black which is nice since im in the basement. Should be freaky when I pick up The Conjuring this week, hopefully therell be some creepy parts.

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My apologies for not being clearer. I meant to ask which of the two DSP modes built into the Triax amp are you using? redface.gif
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Just tell them I will be home and they can drop it off at my house.....smile.gif

Ummm, sure, no problem. I'll send an email to Tom now. wink.gif

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They call you to schedule when you want it delivered. R&L delivered my XV30F and they don't work on weekends (or at least where I live they dont)

http://www2.rlcarriers.com/freight/us-shipping you'll probably wanna find the closest one to you and call them to see which time frames they can deliver

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I asked this earlier, but I think it got lost in all the new Triax excitement.

I noticed in the pics of the Triax with the top part of the box removed the sub is sitting in packing in the bottom section of the box.



I would greatly appreciate those who received their Triax would share how the got it out of the bottom part of the packing/box, preferably without damaging the packing/box and of course the sub. I have a dolly I plan to use to get the Triax in the house and am trying to figure out how to get it out of the bottom of the box onto the dolly.



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My apologies for not being clearer. I meant to ask which of the two DSP modes built into the Triax amp are you using? redface.gif
Ummm, sure, no problem. I'll send an email to Tom now. wink.gif
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Oops sorry. I am using the program for rooms larger than 5000 cubic feet (program button out).

With the program button in, the FR drops like a rock before 10hz.

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Oops sorry. I am using the program for rooms larger than 5000 cubic feet (program button out).

With the program button in, the FR drops like a rock before 10hz.

Thanks.

My room is on the border at about 5500 ft3. I'll try both and see which I prefer.

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I asked this earlier, but I think it got lost in all the new Triax excitement.

I noticed in the pics of the Triax with the top part of the box removed the sub is sitting in packing in the bottom section of the box.



I would greatly appreciate those who received their Triax would share how the got it out of the bottom part of the packing/box, preferably without damaging the packing/box and of course the sub. I have a dolly I plan to use to get the Triax in the house and am trying to figure out how to get it out of the bottom of the box onto the dolly.



Thanks. smile.gif

Just grab each side of the Triax and lift straight up, have a dog (preferably smaller like the one in the pic) grab the bottom side packing and slide it quickly. Then while the Triax is lifted, precede to its new dwelling. Be sure to reward the dog helper with some treats biggrin.gif Lol. Actually that's a good question, I was stumped on that one too since it's akward to grab.

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Just grab each side of the Triax and lift straight up, have a dog (preferably smaller like the one in the pic) grab the bottom side packing and slide it quickly. Then while the Triax is lifted, precede to its new dwelling. Be sure to reward the dog helper with some treats biggrin.gif Lol. Actually that's a good question, I was stumped on that one too since it's akward to grab.

Lol....

Considering the sub weighs 100lbs more than me it'll be quite a sight watching me pick that thing up! I'll be sure to post picks of me picking it up then being hauled off in an ambulance. biggrin.gif

My friend who's helping isn't much bigger than me. I need to get some bigger, stronger friends, and quick!......oh, and younger would also help!..lol

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It looks like there are 4 separate foam pieces on the bottom so I would imagine you could just slide the Triax along with the bottom shipping cardboard onto the top of your dolly and navigate inside of your home.

Then, proceed to lift up one side of the Triax enough to remove the foam corners, rinse & repeat so you'll end up on the cardboard bottom. Then I'd be extra careful and try to slide it off the dolly using the cardboard as a ramp to help reduce the sharp drop. Then figure out how to get the cardboard from out under it.......at that point I'd try to lift it up onto one of the bottom corners and "walk" it off the cardboard but considering its weight versus yours that most likely won't happen.

So I say to just scrap that whole idea and find 1 or 2 other people to assist you.

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Lol....

Considering the sub weighs 100lbs more than me it'll be quite a sight watching me pick that thing up! I'll be sure to post picks of me picking it up then being hauled off in an ambulance. biggrin.gif

My friend who's helping isn't much bigger than me. I need to get some bigger, stronger friends, and quick!

Hey you got your sub sat. Congrats! it finally made it your way.

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