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I just came up with a idea....
What would happen if I was to replace my LaScala woofers with the same as are in the Triax? Would that make the bottom end sound more tonally matched to the Triax?

I think your setup would sound the best with the Triax taking on the low freq, takes more strain off your receiver and will keep your highs and mids strong and crisp. That's an interesting idea, maybe like a Frankenstein deal going lol
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I just came up with a idea....
What would happen if I was to replace my LaScala woofers with the same as are in the Triax? Would that make the bottom end sound more tonally matched to the Triax?
If you have enough power (thousand of watt we talk about here) from your amp to push that driver. I would leave it as is and x-over them at 60-80hz and let the Triax do all the heavy lifting duty.
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Just checked pics of your setup, is that the Trinity right behind your main LP? Nice!! Is that where the Triax is going or are you putting it up front?

Yep it's my first ht setup so I just put a little something together in my bedroom. I grabbed up a Trinity because I didn't know much about what was out there, it does some damage with the lows but I'm hoping to beef it up once my Triax gets here. I'm putting the Triax up front on the right side and I'm not sure where to put the trinity yet until I can do some dual placement measuring. Maybe will let the Triax take control by corner loading it up front and let the trinity shake the seats from the rear, not sure though. Maybe even add another Triax into the mix. I'm planning on buying a new house next year so by then I'll have a dedicated ht room and go all out like you. I didn't this time because I'm renting since I just moved here and plus I had no idea that there was all this ht stuff out there! eek.gif

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I just came up with a idea....
What would happen if I was to replace my LaScala woofers with the same as are in the Triax? Would that make the bottom end sound more tonally matched to the Triax?

I checked out those lascalas, I've never heard of them and they look like they have some impressive specs and reviews. What do you have that'll be driving their power?
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I checked out those lascalas, I've never heard of them and they look like they have some impressive specs and reviews. What do you have that'll be driving their power?
I have a Denon 4520ci.... I should be able to hit 125db with 100 watts. smile.gif
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I have a Denon 4520ci.... I should be able to hit 125db with 100 watts. smile.gif

Hey you got the same receiver as me, it's awesome once you figure out how to use it! I still don't know all of the functions but I got most of it down. I'm sure glad it does a good job on calibrating. Once you get your Triax setup and going you'll probably get a good idea of what your working with. It seems like with HT the skies the limit, it's def made going to the movies obsolete in my book! biggrin.gif
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It's been pretty quiet with the Triax responses, I hope no one pulled a muscle during sub placement eek.gif I'd help if I wasn't living clear off the map, well I can't wait to here some more first hand experiences biggrin.gif

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I just came up with a idea....
What would happen if I was to replace my LaScala woofers with the same as are in the Triax? Would that make the bottom end sound more tonally matched to the Triax?

Completely different designs. The woofer in the lascalas is horn loaded and plays down to the mid 40s. It is designed to be very efficient and is crossed to the mid horn at 400hz. The woofer in the triax is designed with a strong motor and large excursion. There is no way it is efficient enough or could play cleanly up to 400hz to be plug and play in the lascalas. Even reworking the crossover or going active, it probably wouldn't work.
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Completely different designs. The woofer in the lascalas is horn loaded and plays down to the mid 40s. It is designed to be very efficient and is crossed to the mid horn at 400hz. The woofer in the triax is designed with a strong motor and large excursion. There is no way it is efficient enough or could play cleanly up to 400hz to be plug and play in the lascalas. Even reworking the crossover or going active, it probably wouldn't work.

Being very efficient combined with the Triax, should be a winning match just the way they are smile.gif
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Completely different designs. The woofer in the lascalas is horn loaded and plays down to the mid 40s. It is designed to be very efficient and is crossed to the mid horn at 400hz. The woofer in the triax is designed with a strong motor and large excursion. There is no way it is efficient enough or could play cleanly up to 400hz to be plug and play in the lascalas. Even reworking the crossover or going active, it probably wouldn't work.

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Being very efficient combined with the Triax, should be a winning match just the way they are smile.gif

I am just hoping the two go well together.

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I am just hoping the two go well together.

If I had to guess, I'd say you'll be very happy with the mix you've got. I mean other then proper placement and some tweaks here and there, I'll bet it'll be a big improvement! smile.gif
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If I had to guess, I'd say you'll be very happy with the mix you've got. I mean other then proper placement and some tweaks here and there, I'll bet it'll be a big improvement! smile.gif
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I'm sure it will be a big improvement!

No doubt, you'll have a big grin on your face when you first test your setup, and you feel bass and hear sounds that you didn't even know was there. That's what usually happens when you've got a good upgrade to try out. Then comes the fun, getting to test out all the movies and music, and off course seeing the house responding to the Triax should be a lot of fun too! wink.gif
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Completely different designs. The woofer in the lascalas is horn loaded and plays down to the mid 40s. It is designed to be very efficient and is crossed to the mid horn at 400hz. The woofer in the triax is designed with a strong motor and large excursion. There is no way it is efficient enough or could play cleanly up to 400hz to be plug and play in the lascalas. Even reworking the crossover or going active, it probably wouldn't work.

Great! eek.gif Now you guys have me looking at replacing the woofers in our mains. tongue.gif

(let's see....four 10" woofers at $130.00/ea, buying four at a time......)
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Great! eek.gif Now you guys have me looking at replacing the woofers in our mains. tongue.gif

(let's see....four 10" woofers at $130.00/ea, buying four at a time......)

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It's been pretty quiet with the Triax responses, I hope no one pulled a muscle during sub placement eek.gif I'd help if I wasn't living clear off the map, well I can't wait to here some more first hand experiences biggrin.gif

I'm expecting mine today. smile.gif

Ive got a couple people lined up to help move it, so hopefully there won't be any pulled muscles.
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I checked out those lascalas, I've never heard of them and they look like they have some impressive specs and reviews. What do you have that'll be driving their power?

My wife had a pair of Lascalas back in the late 80s. They had metal handles recessed on both sides as it took two people to move them.
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I'm expecting mine today. smile.gif

Ive got a couple people lined up to help move it, so hopefully there won't be any pulled muscles.

Ha you weren't playing around getting some troops ready for this mission! I wonder how close it is to fit it through the door ways? Hopefully I won't have to carry mine sideways, that would be a workout. My 2 younger brothers that live with me just got out of the marines last year, hopefully us 3 can manage a peaceful placement. What they don't know is that once the Triax is put in place I'm going to be calling them back to my room for moving both my subs around for measuring! biggrin.gif

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My wife had a pair of Lascalas back in the late 80s. They had metal handles recessed on both sides as it took two people to move them.

Wow sounds like they are built to last, must of been ahead of their time back then.

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Ha you weren't playing around getting some troops ready for this mission! I wonder how close it is to fit it through the door ways? Hopefully I won't have to carry mine sideways, that would be a workout. My 2 younger brothers that live with me just got out of the marines last year, hopefully us 3 can manage a peaceful placement. What they don't know is that once the Triax is put in place I'm going to be calling them back to my room for moving both my subs around for measuring! biggrin.gif

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I had to take my door off to get the Triax's through my gameroom door. The door can't swing all the way open due to a fireplace and the subs were about an inch too wide.

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It's been pretty quiet with the Triax responses, I hope no one pulled a muscle during sub placement eek.gif I'd help if I wasn't living clear off the map, well I can't wait to here some more first hand experiences biggrin.gif

I haven't posted much as I have been enjoying my subs too much to take the time.

I have watched at least one move a night since I got these a week ago. I am just as impressed now as I was last week.

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I haven't posted much as I have been enjoying my subs too much to take the time.

I have watched at least one move a night since I got these a week ago. I am just as impressed now as I was last week.

Awesome, I can imagine those dual Triaxs surely hit a home run in the bass department. Def brings movies to life!

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Wow sounds like they are built to last, must of been ahead of their time back then.

actually there was a plethora of audio equipment built in the late 80's and 90's that was ahead of its time. Imo that time period was the pinnacle for audio. However I do believe subwoofer technology has come along way thanks to Internet direct, but the brick amd mortar companies subs were better 10-15yrs ago imo. Prime example is the Polk SRT system.
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actually there was a plethora of audio equipment built in the late 80's and 90's that was ahead of its time. Imo that time period was the pinnacle for audio. However I do believe subwoofer technology has come along way thanks to Internet direct, but the brick amd mortar companies subs were better 10-15yrs ago imo. Prime example is the Polk SRT system.

Reminds me of some cars that were built with better quality before compared to now. Seems like technology advances as usual but quality sometimes isn't the same. Strange trends, maybe due to economical factors or overseas manufacturing eek.gif
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My wife had a pair of Lascalas back in the late 80s. They had metal handles recessed on both sides as it took two people to move them.
I unloaded them from my wagon by myself and put them on a furniture dolly to get close to the door, then I man handled it up 2 steps into the house.

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Wow sounds like they are built to last, must of been ahead of their time back then.
The pair I bought were made in 1978... All I am replacing is the caps and they should be fine for many more years unless I decide to mod them.

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The pair I bought were made in 1978... All I am replacing is the caps and they should be fine for many more years unless I decide to mod them.

That's crazy, I never knew that there were speakers built to this level that long ago!
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That's crazy, I never knew that there were speakers built to this level that long ago!
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Reminds me of some cars that were built with better quality before compared to now. Seems like technology advances as usual but quality sometimes isn't the same. Strange trends, maybe due to economical factors or overseas manufacturing eek.gif

yup I agree...

I have a pair of original Klipsch horns that my grandfather bought back in the 70's...still sound amazing to this day for a 2 ch setup.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Klipschorn-Corner-Horn-Loudspeakers-Late-1970s-Walnut-finish-pair-/151135204520?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item23305c34a8
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yup I agree...

I have a pair of original Klipsch horns that my grandfather bought back in the 70's...still sound amazing to this day for a 2 ch setup.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Klipschorn-Corner-Horn-Loudspeakers-Late-1970s-Walnut-finish-pair-/151135204520?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item23305c34a8

Look at the price on those things!
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Furniture sliders are your friend!

My 6 year old daughter is able to push the triax across the carpet with the sliders.

I had to take my door off to get the Triax's through my gameroom door. The door can't swing all the way open due to a fireplace and the subs were about an inch too wide.

How do you guys figure that furniture sliders would affect the perceived tactile output of a triax? I'm on carpet over a concrete floor, so unlike a wood/suspended floor, the 2 XV30s I have will rumble but not shake.

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