Originally Posted by raynist
The JTR S2 is not a dumb recommendation at all, by all accounts it is a monster of a sub. Recommending any comparable sub would be fine.
The comment was tongue in cheek and was not intended as a slight against you challenging my comments. If someone thinks what I post is dumb, I'm comfortable with this point. Just saying. And I'm comfortable with calling myself dumb, ignorant and an incompetent as, depending on the situation, I easily qualify on all three descriptors.
(i'm a qualified incompetent which makes me a competent, incompetent)
I just don't think the reason you are recommending it has any merit.
And I have no trouble with this opinion and based on the rational I posted, I believe it does have merit.
You put a lot of faith in the ULF Score thread, I see you quoting the numbers all of the time, and there is nothing wrong with it if you are comparing subs that have been tested by Ricci.
In a positive way, I comment, you're welcome to do what you see fit and I am welcome to do the same and you're welcome to challenge me on anything I post and I'm welcome to explain why I post what I post and if someone doesn't like what I have to post, they're welcome to share their displeasure.
You say the S2 scored higher than the Triax, but the problem is that neither sub was tested, the numbers are speculation.
Yep. You're correct and I'm comfortable with this point. Just a thought, based on the fact that neither sub has independent testing data that consumers can, at their pleasure, readily review, nobody really knows anything. Maybe nobody should be purchasing anything that hasn't been tested. When one thinks about it, making independent testing a litmus test, sure leaves one with fewer choices.
(when in doubt, we always have assumptions and conjecture)
In my opinion, for those in the market for performance based subwoofers, the ULF thread is a God send. And based on the amount of effort that's been put into it's creation, not to mention the continual updating that takes place, also in my opinion, it's the most valid tool forum members have to compare tested and untested subwoofers in varying environments. The point, unless one can show the information to be terribly flawed, I'm not going throw this tool away or stop recommending products based on the information found on the first two pages of the ULF thread, simply because doing so, makes another happy.
(i'm not going argue your points as in my opinion, there's no point to argue)