Rythmik FV15HP or PC-13 Ultra - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 11:02 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
braveheart123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Lone Wolf McQuade from Islamabad Pakistan
Posts: 1,814
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 115
Any subjective opinions on these two subs? I arrived on these two after reading on both of them all over the internet for as many times as I can forget including the Josh Ricci's test reports. PC13U is more placement friendly. OTH FV15HP just rides my mind; something just yells at me to go for this over pc13u.

PB13U is out of question coz of increased shipping costs from US to Pakistan. So, it is pretty much between the subject mentioned subs only.

The purpose is pretty much purely HT. Room size is around 1800 cu ft. Future proofing (in terms of bigger room size) is also one of the concerns.

Which of the two subs serves me best in HT setup in SQ, SPL, Depth, dynamic headroom, customer services? I can also look at HSU VTF-15H if it pitches well against these two. I don't watch movies at insane GTG levels. Mostly it's around 70dB normal with peaks going upto 100dB with the sub 5dB hotter than other speakers.

Anybody having experience with these subs; please chime in?

Thanx

History is written by those who have hanged heroes ...

The best EQ is no EQ ...

Alpine SWR-1223D Slot Ported HT Sub

Dual Dayton RSS390HO-4 Reference 15 Build For HT

Main System: Klipsch RF-82 II, Klipsch RC-62 II, RS-52 II, Onkyo 5010, Rythmik FV15HP, PSB S300
braveheart123 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 11:18 AM
AVS Special Member
 
brian6751's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Canton, MI
Posts: 3,253
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 94
i have had the FV15HP and the PB13-ultra. i liked the PB13-ultra better (subjectively), but if you are between the FV15HP and the PC13-ultra, i would get the FV15HP unless you just had to have the smaller footprint of the cylinder

Xbox One Gamertag = The Barbeerian

PS4 PSNID = The-Barbeerian
brian6751 is offline  
post #3 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 11:37 AM
AVS Special Member
 
SaviorMachine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: I'm Jackie Treehorn
Posts: 1,391
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by brian6751 View Post

i have had the FV15HP and the PB13-ultra. i liked the PB13-ultra better (subjectively), but if you are between the FV15HP and the PC13-ultra, i would get the FV15HP unless you just had to have the smaller footprint of the cylinder

Really! Can you describe what you preferred about the PB13?

Once again, I am sorry to take a sledgehammer to so small and fragile a nut. -- Richard Dawkins, The Greatest Show On Earth
SaviorMachine is offline  
post #4 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 11:39 AM
AVS Special Member
 
steve nn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,207
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 425
Hey COOL! So you’re going to do one of the big dogs hu? I’m glad for you Brave, so what size room is ?? going in?

Klipsch RB-75
Klipsch C-7
Klipsch RB-35
On-going SW management class
Denon
PS3
steve nn is offline  
post #5 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 12:08 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
braveheart123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Lone Wolf McQuade from Islamabad Pakistan
Posts: 1,814
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 115
Quote:
Hey COOL! So you’re going to do one of the big dogs hu? I’m glad for you Brave, so what size room is ?? going in?

It is less than approx 1800 cu ft for now i.e. in my bedroom. I need to future proof this purchase in terms of headroom and pressurization of a room twice the current one.

History is written by those who have hanged heroes ...

The best EQ is no EQ ...

Alpine SWR-1223D Slot Ported HT Sub

Dual Dayton RSS390HO-4 Reference 15 Build For HT

Main System: Klipsch RF-82 II, Klipsch RC-62 II, RS-52 II, Onkyo 5010, Rythmik FV15HP, PSB S300
braveheart123 is offline  
post #6 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 01:27 PM
AVS Special Member
 
brian6751's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Canton, MI
Posts: 3,253
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaviorMachine View Post

Really! Can you describe what you preferred about the PB13?

i liked the "thicker" sound it had. it is also a little bit more safisticated with the digital control, real wood veneer, metal grill and bad ass looking driver.

like i said. subjective

Xbox One Gamertag = The Barbeerian

PS4 PSNID = The-Barbeerian
brian6751 is offline  
post #7 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 01:38 PM
AVS Special Member
 
SaviorMachine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: I'm Jackie Treehorn
Posts: 1,391
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by brian6751 View Post

i liked the "thicker" sound it had. it is also a little bit more safisticated with the digital control, real wood veneer, metal grill and bad ass looking driver.

like i said. subjective

All totally legit. Just curious smile.gif

Once again, I am sorry to take a sledgehammer to so small and fragile a nut. -- Richard Dawkins, The Greatest Show On Earth
SaviorMachine is offline  
post #8 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 02:37 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Kini62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 2,818
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Liked: 305
Quote:
Originally Posted by braveheart123 View Post

Any subjective opinions on these two subs? I arrived on these two after reading on both of them all over the internet for as many times as I can forget including the Josh Ricci's test reports. PC13U is more placement friendly. OTH FV15HP just rides my mind; something just yells at me to go for this over pc13u.

PB13U is out of question coz of increased shipping costs from US to Pakistan. So, it is pretty much between the subject mentioned subs only.

The purpose is pretty much purely HT. Room size is around 1800 cu ft. Future proofing (in terms of bigger room size) is also one of the concerns.

Which of the two subs serves me best in HT setup in SQ, SPL, Depth, dynamic headroom, customer services? I can also look at HSU VTF-15H if it pitches well against these two. I don't watch movies at insane GTG levels. Mostly it's around 70dB normal with peaks going upto 100dB with the sub 5dB hotter than other speakers.

Anybody having experience with these subs; please chime in?

Thanx

Really not much between the two. The FV15HP has more output and digs a little deeper in its lowest tuning, something you probably would not notice in your current room. The PC is of course easier to place and costs less to ship, plus SVS IMO has a better warranty and customer service/support. I also think the driver and amp that SVS uses is a step up in quality, reasons why the SVS cost more.

Klipsch RF-62II, RC-500, RS-400, SVS PC12+,
Def Tech SC8000
Harman Kardon AVR 1600
PS3, Apple TV, Sharp 70" Qattron
Kini62 is offline  
post #9 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 03:16 PM
AVS Special Member
 
steve nn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,207
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 425
Quote:
Originally Posted by braveheart123 View Post

It is less than approx 1800 cu ft for now i.e. in my bedroom. I need to future proof this purchase in terms of headroom and pressurization of a room twice the current one.

Totally understandable. This one is a hard one imo. I never have had a chance with the Rythmik but we all know what a great sub it is. Take a little max output away from the PC version of the ULTRA (you would have to ask Ed where unless there has been a change???) and the disparity in spl is a tad more than suggested over at data??? That being that though, I have always been a big fan of the ULTRA. The ULTRA’s I‘ve had, I favored the PC version over the PB. It’s just so darn easy to deal with, that’s not to say you would be moving it around all the time, but something to think of if you make it back stateside, and like you say $hipping to you. I agree with Brian that the ULTRA has a little of a thicker sound trait to it.. the SQ suited me very well. What SVS is able to do with that 50.5 pound driver we all know is quite a achievement! That’s not to take away from Brian on what he has done with the HP. They both have feature rich amps. I guess it comes down to if you want to base your decision totally on SPL/headroom or consider the other factors into your decision? SVS costs a little more, but then how much difference in shipping are you looking at? You then want it to be a long term decision if you can, so $$ shouldn’t be the only deciding factor. If you ever want two for smoothing and more headroom, what can you place better?? Being where your at and the history I’ve had with SVS customer support, I would definitely favor SVS. OUTSTANDING .. Just shoot them a test mail and see what I mean. smile.gif I dunno, things to think about, either or, your decision will be the right one for you and like said, nice to see you make the plunge as hard as it is with your situation. Looking forward to your impression whatever you choose.

EDIT> Thinking about it, I think it’s just the low end on the PC is a little less 1-2dB max due to the internal volume is a little different between the PC and PB.

Klipsch RB-75
Klipsch C-7
Klipsch RB-35
On-going SW management class
Denon
PS3
steve nn is offline  
post #10 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 04:19 PM
Member
 
DualMono's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 122
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 17
The FV15HP has nearly +9db more output @12.5hz compared to the PB13, according to dominguez1. That is not a just "little" more output @12.5hz, that is substantial, imo. And on top of that FV15HP cost hundreds less. There's not much to think about in my mind...Rythmik FV15HP all the way!
DualMono is offline  
post #11 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 05:14 PM
AVS Special Member
 
dominguez1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,668
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Liked: 155
Quote:
Originally Posted by DualMono View Post

The FV15HP has nearly +9db more output @12.5hz compared to the PB13, according to domingquez1. That is not a just "little" more output @12.5hz, that is substantial, imo. And on top of that FV15HP cost hundreds less. There's not much to think about in my mind...Rythmik FV15HP all the way!

Yes, 9db is significant (it would take aprox. 3 PB13s to match that output at the freq), and in my room makes a huge difference. IMO, the Rythmik has more future-proof-ability (sorry...) and the SQ to match. Rare and sought after combo.

dominguez1 is offline  
post #12 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 05:35 PM
AVS Special Member
 
derrickdj1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,356
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Liked: 137
The Rythmik and SVS is are great subs. The critical bass frequencies to look at are from 16-63Hz. Our ability to hear or perceived a major difference below 16 Hz is poor. Most movies do not go below 16Hz and even if they do, the 30 Hz region will overpower the 16 Hz region and that is what is being heard. Just a little info, and not to favor the SVS or Rythmik.
steve nn likes this.

Klipsch RF 7 based HT 7.4, Pioneer SC 35, Acurus Five 200 amp, Chase SS 18.2(2), VS 18.1(2), Samsung BDP F 7500, Asus/My Book Live HPC 4 TB

Yaquin VK 2100 amp, McIntosh XR 5 speakers, Samsung BDP F 7500
derrickdj1 is offline  
post #13 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 05:55 PM
AVS Special Member
 
lovinthehd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: OROR
Posts: 6,323
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 82 Post(s)
Liked: 723
Personally I'd go for the Rythmik but that's me not you. Curious, just what would you expect in the way of CS in Pakistan? Parts shipped there under warranty if needed? Did you ask each company how that sort of detail would work?

lovinthehd is offline  
post #14 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 06:46 PM
AVS Special Member
 
dominguez1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,668
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Liked: 155
Quote:
Originally Posted by derrickdj1 View Post

Our ability to hear or perceived a major difference below 16 Hz is poor. Most movies do not go below 16Hz and even if they do, the 30 Hz region will overpower the 16 Hz region and that is what is being heard. Just a little info, and not favor the SVS or Rythmik.

Yes, but it's not about being heard at below 16hz. It's about feeling below 16hz. In my room, it's an awesome wobble feeling...and the coolest thing about it is that it's pretty much inaudible. That is what ULF is all about.

 

That's why the 9db at 12.5hz is important. This is why you hear people complain on the Master Bass Movie thread when movies are filtered...it doesn't seem or feel realistic; like something is missing. Do the majority of movies go down that low? No, but when a movie does, it's quite an experience...at least in my room.

 

As far as 30 over powering 16, audibly, absolutely. However, from an inaudible, tactile feeling and weight standpoint, I can absolutely tell it's missing.

dominguez1 is offline  
post #15 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 07:49 PM
AVS Special Member
 
basshead81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Posts: 5,583
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 1330
Quote:
Originally Posted by dominguez1 View Post

Yes, but it's not about being heard at below 16hz. It's about feeling below 16hz. In my room, it's an awesome wobble feeling...and the coolest thing about it is that it's pretty much inaudible. That is what ULF is all about.

That's why the 9db at 12.5hz is important. This is why you hear people complain on the Master Bass Movie thread when movies are filtered...it doesn't seem or feel realistic; like something is missing. Do the majority of movies go down that low? No, but when a movie does, it's quite an experience...at least in my room.

As far as 30 over powering 16, audibly, absolutely. However, from an inaudible, tactile feeling and weight standpoint, I can absolutely tell it's missing.

Just curious in a blind test can you tell a difference from 15hz down to 12.5hz?
Lecter83 likes this.
basshead81 is offline  
post #16 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 08:05 PM
AVS Special Member
 
dominguez1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,668
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Liked: 155
dominguez1 is offline  
post #17 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 08:23 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Cowboys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,346
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 106
^^ if there is enough output pushing air at 12.5hz then absolutely yes (Dom's case).
Cowboys is offline  
post #18 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 09:47 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
braveheart123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Lone Wolf McQuade from Islamabad Pakistan
Posts: 1,814
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 115
Quote:
Curious, just what would you expect in the way of CS in Pakistan? Parts shipped there under warranty if needed?

Yes.

History is written by those who have hanged heroes ...

The best EQ is no EQ ...

Alpine SWR-1223D Slot Ported HT Sub

Dual Dayton RSS390HO-4 Reference 15 Build For HT

Main System: Klipsch RF-82 II, Klipsch RC-62 II, RS-52 II, Onkyo 5010, Rythmik FV15HP, PSB S300
braveheart123 is offline  
post #19 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 09:57 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
braveheart123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Lone Wolf McQuade from Islamabad Pakistan
Posts: 1,814
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 115
Quote:
i liked the "thicker" sound it had. it is also a little bit more safisticated with the digital control, real wood veneer, metal grill and bad ass looking driver.

I don't know if we both are after the same thing or not. I also like thick sound which is weighty. Can you explain the thick sound. Have you watched "The Conjuring" or "The Hills Have Eyes - Part II"? Can you explain the thick sound of SVS keeping in mind any of the low bass scenes from those movies?

I don't know but it's hard to believe FV15HP doesn't have that thick signature and PB13U does. The Conjuring has never ending dynamic range in LFE esp 30Hz and below. Even my PSB S300 is all up to the challenge but I know where the driver compresses and makes me wana have a real sub.

History is written by those who have hanged heroes ...

The best EQ is no EQ ...

Alpine SWR-1223D Slot Ported HT Sub

Dual Dayton RSS390HO-4 Reference 15 Build For HT

Main System: Klipsch RF-82 II, Klipsch RC-62 II, RS-52 II, Onkyo 5010, Rythmik FV15HP, PSB S300
braveheart123 is offline  
post #20 of 249 Old 10-16-2013, 11:24 PM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
braveheart123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Lone Wolf McQuade from Islamabad Pakistan
Posts: 1,814
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 115
Quote:
I agree with Brian that the ULTRA has a little of a thicker sound trait to it.. the SQ suited me very well. What SVS is able to do with that 50.5 pound driver we all know is quite a achievement!

Hi Steve, are you discussing PC or PB? If you have PC; a lil more insight regarding thicker sound trait? Also if you could explain that term keeping the movies in mind i mentioned in my last post?

thanx

History is written by those who have hanged heroes ...

The best EQ is no EQ ...

Alpine SWR-1223D Slot Ported HT Sub

Dual Dayton RSS390HO-4 Reference 15 Build For HT

Main System: Klipsch RF-82 II, Klipsch RC-62 II, RS-52 II, Onkyo 5010, Rythmik FV15HP, PSB S300
braveheart123 is offline  
post #21 of 249 Old 10-17-2013, 12:38 AM
Member
 
silvrbill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 19
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Just a FYI...I'm in Kyrgyzstan and Brian at Rythmik accomodated my shipping dilemma by shipping the amp seperate from the enclosure and driver.
I simply put it all together and life was good...............
My "little" F12 is all I need for my bedroom setup.
Don't know if you have any shipping problems but Brian will help you if needed.
silvrbill is offline  
post #22 of 249 Old 10-17-2013, 12:44 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
braveheart123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Lone Wolf McQuade from Islamabad Pakistan
Posts: 1,814
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 115
Quote:
Just a FYI...I'm in Kyrgyzstan and Brian at Rythmik accomodated my shipping dilemma by shipping the amp seperate from the enclosure and driver.
I simply put it all together and life was good...............
My "little" F12 is all I need for my bedroom setup.
Don't know if you have any shipping problems but Brian will help you if needed.

Thanx buds; that's very reassuring. If you don't mind, can you tell how much did the F12 actually cost you till your doorstep in US $?

History is written by those who have hanged heroes ...

The best EQ is no EQ ...

Alpine SWR-1223D Slot Ported HT Sub

Dual Dayton RSS390HO-4 Reference 15 Build For HT

Main System: Klipsch RF-82 II, Klipsch RC-62 II, RS-52 II, Onkyo 5010, Rythmik FV15HP, PSB S300
braveheart123 is offline  
post #23 of 249 Old 10-17-2013, 01:03 AM
Member
 
silvrbill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 19
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I think around $950, not entirely sure. I want to say the total shipping was about $100-120.
Let me look through my bank statements a little bit.
silvrbill is offline  
post #24 of 249 Old 10-17-2013, 01:20 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
braveheart123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Lone Wolf McQuade from Islamabad Pakistan
Posts: 1,814
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 115
Quote:
I want to say the total shipping was about $100-120.
Let me look through my bank statements a little bit.

That's very cheap. Didn't you have to pay any duties or taxes on it in Kyrgyzstan?

History is written by those who have hanged heroes ...

The best EQ is no EQ ...

Alpine SWR-1223D Slot Ported HT Sub

Dual Dayton RSS390HO-4 Reference 15 Build For HT

Main System: Klipsch RF-82 II, Klipsch RC-62 II, RS-52 II, Onkyo 5010, Rythmik FV15HP, PSB S300
braveheart123 is offline  
post #25 of 249 Old 10-17-2013, 01:24 AM
Member
 
silvrbill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 19
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I don't find the info i'm looking for right now but for me the shipping was within the US. I'm at an APO address so my shipping charges probably won't apply in your situation.
Wish I could be of more help...........
silvrbill is offline  
post #26 of 249 Old 10-17-2013, 06:47 AM
AVS Special Member
 
basshead81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Posts: 5,583
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 1330
Quote:
Originally Posted by braveheart123 View Post

I don't know if we both are after the same thing or not. I also like thick sound which is weighty. Can you explain the thick sound. Have you watched "The Conjuring" or "The Hills Have Eyes - Part II"? Can you explain the thick sound of SVS keeping in mind any of the low bass scenes from those movies?

I don't know but it's hard to believe FV15HP doesn't have that thick signature and PB13U does. The Conjuring has never ending dynamic range in LFE esp 30Hz and below. Even my PSB S300 is all up to the challenge but I know where the driver compresses and makes me wana have a real sub.

If you read much in the Rythmik thread the servo subs are designed to not be thick sounding. However the damping adjustment can be used to taylor that to one's liking. I fyou are a music lover you would be best suited by the Rythmik.
basshead81 is offline  
post #27 of 249 Old 10-17-2013, 06:49 AM
AVS Special Member
 
steve nn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,207
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 425
Quote:
Originally Posted by braveheart123 View Post


Hi Steve, are you discussing PC or PB? If you have PC; a lil more insight regarding thicker sound trait? Also if you could explain that term keeping the movies in mind i mentioned in my last post?

thanx

I’m discussing both units actually. I’ve had the pleasure of owning both options in single or dual including the past ULTRA /2. I’ve been thinking how I might best relate to you what descriptive I might use to get my impression across in a way that you might get a good grasp on what I’m trying to relate though. Let’s go with this since you have some exposure to DIY. You know when you build a sealed SW and you’re trying to figure out how much dampening to go with discarding the standard because we all have our own preference in the matter. So you start with say .2 then .5 and gradually move up until you over dampen, and then back down and what that dampening does to the sound and response of your project as you do so. I would equate the the ULTRA as being not overly dampened, but being very articulate with having a good amount of openness and gravity (if you will) regarding it’s SQ/response. Now with that being said..

Back in the day before there was a Rythmik, I had Brian build me a custom sub with a 15” driver about the same size as the HP. I have no idea if he employs fill in his vented enclosures now, (suspect liner being the norm) but he did at that time with the unit he built for me. Rythmik has their own amps now to deal with things also. I would equate it’s SQ as being a little more dampened, and suspect it’s the same today?? I dunno, it’s just my impression. Some like the SQ traits of that better and some don’t.. same could be said regarding SVS. I know Brians products have evolved over time as with SVS, so I have no doubt they both favor their own aproach. Rythmik and it’s offerings and aproach is much more sophisticated now as with SVS. Both have the ability to bend the rules (but not break) that will effect SQ and the products response.

As far as how it relates to your movies in question, I have not seen them and hope you might be able to glean something from my reply

EDIT> Good summarization bass..

Klipsch RB-75
Klipsch C-7
Klipsch RB-35
On-going SW management class
Denon
PS3
steve nn is offline  
post #28 of 249 Old 10-17-2013, 09:13 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
braveheart123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Lone Wolf McQuade from Islamabad Pakistan
Posts: 1,814
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 115
Quote:
I’m discussing both units actually. I’ve had the pleasure of owning both options in single or dual including the past ULTRA /2. I’ve been thinking how I might best relate to you what descriptive I might use to get my impression across in a way that you might get a good grasp on what I’m trying to relate though. Let’s go with this since you have some exposure to DIY. You know when you build a sealed SW and you’re trying to figure out how much dampening to go with discarding the standard because we all have our own preference in the matter. So you start with say .2 then .5 and gradually move up until you over dampen, and then back down and what that dampening does to the sound and response of your project as you do so. I would equate the the ULTRA as being not overly dampened, but being very articulate with having a good amount of openness and gravity (if you will) regarding it’s SQ/response. Now with that being said..

I think I can interpret what you are saying and the kind of fat low end I want is what SVS has. Rythmiks belt out tight bass; but the dampening can be increased/decreased in Rythmik; how much??? I don't know. I think I read somewhere that dampening switch must not be on low setting coupled with the rumble filter set to off on Rythmik FV15HP in 2 ports open mode or it will void warranty.

I don't know if it's true or not.

History is written by those who have hanged heroes ...

The best EQ is no EQ ...

Alpine SWR-1223D Slot Ported HT Sub

Dual Dayton RSS390HO-4 Reference 15 Build For HT

Main System: Klipsch RF-82 II, Klipsch RC-62 II, RS-52 II, Onkyo 5010, Rythmik FV15HP, PSB S300
braveheart123 is offline  
post #29 of 249 Old 10-17-2013, 09:17 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
braveheart123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Lone Wolf McQuade from Islamabad Pakistan
Posts: 1,814
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 115
Quote:
If you read much in the Rythmik thread the servo subs are designed to not be thick sounding. However the damping adjustment can be used to taylor that to one's liking. I fyou are a music lover you would be best suited by the Rythmik.

My use would be pretty much movies only.

History is written by those who have hanged heroes ...

The best EQ is no EQ ...

Alpine SWR-1223D Slot Ported HT Sub

Dual Dayton RSS390HO-4 Reference 15 Build For HT

Main System: Klipsch RF-82 II, Klipsch RC-62 II, RS-52 II, Onkyo 5010, Rythmik FV15HP, PSB S300
braveheart123 is offline  
post #30 of 249 Old 10-17-2013, 11:41 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
braveheart123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Lone Wolf McQuade from Islamabad Pakistan
Posts: 1,814
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 115
Quote:
i liked the "thicker" sound it had. it is also a little bit more safisticated with the digital control, real wood veneer, metal grill and bad ass looking driver.

When you say PB13U had thicker sound compared to FV15HP; what were the settings on FV15HP amp? Where did you set the damping knob (High/Med/Low)?

History is written by those who have hanged heroes ...

The best EQ is no EQ ...

Alpine SWR-1223D Slot Ported HT Sub

Dual Dayton RSS390HO-4 Reference 15 Build For HT

Main System: Klipsch RF-82 II, Klipsch RC-62 II, RS-52 II, Onkyo 5010, Rythmik FV15HP, PSB S300
braveheart123 is offline  
Reply Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers

Tags
Fv15hp Subwoofer , Svs Pc12 Ultra , Svs Pb13 Ultra , Svs Sb13 Ultra Piano Gloss 13 Inch 1000 Watt Powered Subwoofer , Svs , Rythmik Audio , Rythmik

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off