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Room size is 18' x 29'(only half the length of the room is the TV area), 9' and 10' ceilings. I know everyone will say to get 2 subs but I only want one so what's my best bet.

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What's the for print size you can work with? 2'x2'? One great sub with a small footprint is the SVS PC12-Plus. It may still be an aesthetic clash in your room though.
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What's the for print size you can work with? 2'x2'? One great sub with a small footprint is the SVS PC12-Plus. It may still be an aesthetic clash in your room though.

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Thats exactly what I am thinking of buying, just seeing if anyone has other ideas. I have gone through the gamut here, Rhythmik FV15HP (decided footprint is too big), SVS SB 13 Ultra(not enough output), 2 smaller SVS subs(don't want 2 subs) so I think I have decided on the SVS cylinder. Is the PC 13 Ultra worth the extra expense over the PC 12 Plus?
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How do the PC's compare with the PB subs from SVS? I know the footprint is much bigger for PB but just curious how the sound and output differ?
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Its worth it if you listen loud for sure, I have the pc12 plus and it does very well in my 13x25 room but it shows its limits when pushed
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Its worth it if you listen loud for sure, I have the pc12 plus and it does very well in my 13x25 room but it shows its limits when pushed

Is your sub "corner loaded"?
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How do the PC's compare with the PB subs from SVS? I know the footprint is much bigger for PB but just curious how the sound and output differ?

Up untill the pc 13 ultra they are the same the pb13ultra digs a bit deeper but its not anything you'd notice without measuring from what ed from svs told me
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It is 6" off the wall and 2 feet from the corner
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I plan to upgrade next year to the ultra myself
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Up untill the pc 13 ultra they are the same the pb13ultra digs a bit deeper but its not anything you'd notice without measuring from what ed from svs told me

I figured that they would be very similar. Thanks
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It is 6" off the wall and 2 feet from the corner

You do that for aesthetics or smooth response?
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Both I only had one area to put it and it was smoother away from the corner but its only 2ft from the couch
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The PC13Ultra will have another 3db across the board...so basically more headroom. Here is a PC13Ultra B-stock for 1549.00 and still has the full 5yr warranty.
http://www.svsound.com/outlet-specials?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=179&category_id=5
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Room size is 18' x 29'(only half the length of the room is the TV area), 9' and 10' ceilings. I know everyone will say to get 2 subs but I only want one so what's my best bet.

Out of curiosity, how can one be expected to give a rational reply when one is given specifications that are not rational? confused.gif

Hypothetically, one buys a single sub and sets it up in listening space. Due to room acoustics and how subwoofer sound waves interact in a room, expectedly they will have terrible results. And then the individual will want to know, why in their large room is their single subwoofer giving such such terrible results? The simple reply, because they haven't taken the time to deal with their room's acoustics and because of this the subwoofer's output is being messed up.

In response to your question, there is no reasonable response because within your budget, due to your specifications, you've set yourself up for fail. Why would anybody do that? confused.gif

If you just want a subwoofer, pretty much anything vented in your price range (SVS, Rythmik or PSA), will give quality sound reproduction but before shooting yourself in the foot, may I suggest you reconsider your specifications?
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Out of curiosity, how can one be expected to give a rational reply when one is given specifications that are not rational? confused.gif

Hypothetically, one buys a single sub and sets it up in listening space. Due to room acoustics and how subwoofer sound waves interact in a room, expectedly they will have terrible results. And then the individual will want to know, why in their large room is their single subwoofer giving such such terrible results? The simple reply, because they haven't taken the time to deal with their room's acoustics and because of this the subwoofer's output is being messed up.

In response to your question, there is no reasonable response because within your budget, due to your specifications, you've set yourself up for fail. Why would anybody do that? confused.gif

If you just want a subwoofer, pretty much anything vented in your price range (SVS, Rythmik or PSA), will give quality sound reproduction but before shooting yourself in the foot, may I suggest you reconsider your specifications?
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The PC13Ultra will have another 3db across the board...so basically more headroom. Here is a PC13Ultra B-stock for 1549.00 and still has the full 5yr warranty.
http://www.svsound.com/outlet-specials?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=179&category_id=5

This is the most sub per square inch of floor space you're going to find. I have the PC12+ version in a small(ish) room and it's incredible.

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Another vote for the SVS cylinder.
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I respect what you are saying, but If you are looking at the cylinder, I would consider the PSA XV-30f another would be the PSA XS-30. Both on the money. I would get as much sub as you can, because you are going to want more in a year. Trust me.

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I would get as much sub as you can, because you are going to want more in a year. Trust me.--

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Lees23 -

Let me translate Beeman for you. You want good output/extension in 6000ft^3 for $1500. Pretty much any of the ID companies will give similiar results in your space (I would got ported, not much room gain in your space for sealed). Notice I said similiar, not great (by AVS standards). Pick one that fits your aesthetics and begin saving for another one.
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Let me translate Beeman for you. You want good output/extension in 6000ft^3 for $1500. Pretty much any of the ID companies will give similiar results in your space (I would got ported, not much room gain in your space for sealed). Notice I said similiar, not great (by AVS standards). Pick one that fits your aesthetics and begin saving for another one.

+1 That works for me. You really ought to go the PR.. no we won’t get into that. just playin rolleyes.gifbiggrin.gif
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The Rythmik F25. small footprint. Accurate bass. Great price $1399. I love my Rythmik f15hp.biggrin.gif

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How long have u had ur fv15hp? I just ordered 2

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How long have u had ur fv15hp? I just ordered 2

He said a F15HP, that model is sealed.
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I have a Rythmik F15HP not the FV15HP. I also use the HSU MBM 12 MK 2 for midbass. I love the rythmik sub it is the cleanest most accurate sub I have ever owned by far. Can't go wrong with rythmiks.
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HSU ULS-15 is a FANTASTIC sub.

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A little concerned about a sealed sub in such a big room.
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I'd go FV15HP or XV30f based on your criteria. I have a 30f in a similar scenario where tv room is half the total room size but with 22' ceilings.. around 8k^3. The 30f gets plenty loud...I'm not stressing it.. but the room really saps the output under 30Hz.

One of those subs in your room shouldn't sound bad at all. You might run into a desire to get a 2nd sub for more even coverage down the road but then again you may not. I doubt you'd find the output of the 1 sub lacking unless you turn out to be an uber bass head. wink.gif
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