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I have a 2500 cu ft room that i will be getting a denon receiver for and the pioneer Bs22 and c22 for the speakers. Will probably get the bookshelf speakers rather than the towers but not 100% decided yet. I am debating between the Hsu VTF2, pa-150, or the Dayton Audio C1500K for my sub. Was reading that if I go with the bookshelf pioneers then go with the pa-150 and if i get towers then hsu. Anyone have any opions between the 3 or another sub below the 500 mark. Will be used mainly for movies.
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I have a 2500 cu ft room ... Anyone have any opions between the 3 or another sub below the 500 mark. Will be used mainly for movies.
SVS PB-1000. It's a well-rated sub; it sells for $499, shipped; and SVS offers free return shipping within 45 days. If you like it, you're set; if you don't, you return it and you're out $0 for an in-home demo. smile.gif
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The PA-150 will have the most output overall. The VTF2 will dig the deepest and still have a healthy amount of output. The C1500K will likely be all upper bass, I wouldn't bother with that one. Between those I would go for the Hsu, I think it will have the highest quality bass.
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The VTF-2 is the best out of the bunch IMO, but costs closer to $600 when you add in shipping. I would go for the PB-1000 eljaycanuck mentions which is $499 shipped and has a 5-year warranty. If $600 is your budget, I would take a look at the Rythmik LV12R.
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VTF-2 sub without a doubt!
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VTF-2 sub without a doubt!

+1 hands down http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-2mk4.html spend a little extra for your 2500, it’ll be worth it.

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SVS PB-1000. It's a well-rated sub; it sells for $499, shipped; and SVS offers free return shipping within 45 days. If you like it, you're set; if you don't, you return it and you're out $0 for an in-home demo. smile.gif

Agreed.

The PB-1000 will be more that sufficient for your size room given you are using the Pioneer speakers and are apparently trying to keep the cost down on your setup. The Pioneers are not terribly efficient, so the PB-1000 should keep up with them fine.

If spending the extra money is not a hardship, or you are a basshead, then sure. Go for the VTF-2 MK4. It will be the better sub. But most people would be more than happy with the PB-1000 in this situation. I would take the difference in cost and get the Pioneer FS52 towers for the front over the BS22s for the little bit better dynamics and slightly better sensitivity. The FS52 towers are even a little bit better choice for crossing over with a sub at 80hz than the BS22s. Plus, you wouldn't be having to pay for speaker stands.

Note that Audioholics, who provided a comprehensive review of the Pioneer Andrew Jones speakers, made the same recommendation of the PB-1000:
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If the choice is only between those three subs then VTF-2.

 

If you are starting to entertain other ideas then I agree with Cel4145 and eljaycanuck:

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If spending the extra money is not a hardship, or you are a basshead, then sure. Go for the VTF-2 MK4. It will be the better sub. But most people would be more than happy with the PB-1000 in this situation. I would take the difference in cost and get the Pioneer FS52 towers for the front over the BS22s for the little bit better dynamics and slightly better sensitivity. The FS52 towers are even a little bit better choice for crossing over with a sub at 80hz than the BS22s. Plus, you wouldn't be having to pay for speaker stands.

 

 

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What fun is getting a lesser performing subwoofer? If you go down that road, might as well just get a Dayton 1200.
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Agreed.

The PB-1000 will be more that sufficient for your size room given you are using the Pioneer speakers and are apparently trying to keep the cost down on your setup. The Pioneers are not terribly efficient, so the PB-1000 should keep up with them fine.

If spending the extra money is not a hardship, or you are a basshead, then sure. Go for the VTF-2 MK4. It will be the better sub. But most people would be more than happy with the PB-1000 in this situation. I would take the difference in cost and get the Pioneer FS52 towers for the front over the BS22s for the little bit better dynamics and slightly better sensitivity. The FS52 towers are even a little bit better choice for crossing over with a sub at 80hz than the BS22s. Plus, you wouldn't be having to pay for speaker stands.

Note that Audioholics, who provided a comprehensive review of the Pioneer Andrew Jones speakers, made the same recommendation of the PB-1000:

I figure I better let the OP know about a experience I had many years ago. I too was looking to upgrade and cel recommended a sub to me that he thought would work out ok in a leaky 1900 cu ft room. So upon his recommendation I tried it out and it didn’t work out to well. So in the end I had to go with dual not one of another SW option. The sub cel recommended is in front. biggrin.gif



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I figure I better let the OP know about a experience I had many years ago. I too was looking to upgrade and cel recommended a sub to me that he thought would work out ok in a leaky 1900 cu ft room. So upon his recommendation I tried it out and it didn’t work out to well. So in the end I had to go with dual not one of another SW option. The sub cel recommended is in front. biggrin.gif



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So I have limited the subs down to two the hsu vtf2 and the Rythmik LV12R. People seem to say both are good but will one be better with the pioneer speakers. I am going to go wit the tower pioneers.
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Either will go just fine with the Pioneers. They won't differ in that respect.
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How about which is better for a home theater setup.I dont watch movies at rally loud levels just want something that sounds good at a normal volume. Will play music from time to time but thats not as improtant.
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They will both sound fine at normal levels. If I were you I would just look at which features appeal to you the most.
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They will both sound fine at normal levels. If I were you I would just look at which features appeal to you the most.

I agree. If you're not pushing them either one.

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The outlaw ex is now on sale matching price of vtf2 mk4 and rythmik. Would that now be the winner?
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I think of the three I might look closely at that Outlaw while it's on sale. 

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